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He doesn't just go to liberal colleges. There are thousands of students at berkley he was invited there and he can more than fill an auditorium with students. You're saying he should not go because there are people who don't want to hear him? That's like saying a Dem should never campaign in Wyoming and a Rep in Berkley because most people there won't agree with them.

I'm not saying that at all but OK. You gonna believe what you gonna believe.

02-02-2017 , 09:22 PM

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I cannot attest to the veracity of this statement.

02-02-2017 , 10:29 PM

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UC Berkeley officials were afraid that Milo would possibly target specific undocumented students on campus and single them out during his presentation.

http://www.sfgate.com/news/amp/UC-wa...d-10901517.php

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"We are deeply concerned for all students’ safety and ability to pursue their education here at Cal beyond Milo’s speech,” the university’s Office of Student Affairs said in a letter Tuesday to the Berkeley College Republicans, the students hosting the event. “Milo’s event may be used to target individuals, either in the audience or by using their personal information in a way that causes them to become human targets to serve a political agenda.”

The letter expressed concerns that Yiannopoulos — a British writer for the right-wing opinion site Breitbart News — will use his appearance to kick off a campaign “targeting the undocumented student community on our campus,” and linked to an article published Tuesday on the site.

02-02-2017 , 10:29 PM

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Bigoldnit

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From US Senator from HI/ Chief Deputy Whip.

02-02-2017 , 10:29 PM

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ecriture d'adulte

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Free speech has come to mean something bizarre to the alt right/concern trolls. Nobody has any sort of constitutional right to use the facilities at Berkeley to give a talk and students certainly shouldn't have the power to invite whoever. There is nothing wrong with public universities, especially elite research universities, simply acting like their private counterparts and not provide safe spaces for trolls, creationists, and other assorted idiots.

02-02-2017 , 10:47 PM

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02-02-2017 , 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ecriture d'adulte

Yup. No one has advocated that Milo be arrested for his statements and no one has said the government should shut down breitbart (well, no one in this thread). Those would be violations of his right to free speech.

To those who say "you ruin everything by being violent"-you'd be cool if they non-violently tried to disrupt his events right? Like blocking the doors (not fighting anyone, just linking arms and sitting in them). That wouldn't be violating his free speech rights, correct? Or is sitting in respectful silence the only appropriate thing in your minds?

02-03-2017 , 12:28 AM

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Yemenis Close Bodegas and Rally to Protest Trump’s Ban

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Thousands of Yemeni-Americans and their supporters rallied in Brooklyn on Thursday to denounce President Trump’s executive order on immigration, hours after hundreds of Yemeni-owned bodegas and grocery stores around New York closed to protest the order.

02-03-2017 , 12:46 AM

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Hundreds of doctors and nurses urge the Cleveland Clinic to stand up to Trump

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Doctors, nurses and students have signed an open letter pleading with the clinic to publicly condemn Trump's immigration ban and use its power to protect medical professionals from deportation. The letter also urges the hospital system to cancel a fundraiser set for later this month at Trump's Mar-a-Lago resort in Palm Beach, Fla.

02-03-2017 , 01:08 AM

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March for Science date is set for Earth Day, April 22. All are welcome; many satellite marches across the US and the world.

02-03-2017 , 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by ecriture d'adulte

I agree, no one has the right to just show up and speak inside whatever private property they chose to, but Berkeley literally made agreements to let him speak. He's not some random who broke into a classroom out of nowhere and started shouting inside the auditorium, he was nominated to speak by a student group (which doesn't mean anything) but was then given approval to speak by the university on their property (which means everything).

What mistake did he make by showing up after being given approval? I don't even believe his free speech rights (that the university granted) were infringed upon because he was never disallowed to speak, he cancelled due to safety concerns and I agree that 99.9999999999% of the protesters were peaceful and have the right to protest, but your argument that he just showed up against the will of Berkeley is not accurate

If Berkeley had said "sorry we changed our minds" but he showed up anyway, that would be one thing, but that's not what happened

02-03-2017 , 01:23 AM

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I will absolutely be participating in the March for Science on April 22 if the United States sill exists and it's not the middle of nuclear winter.

02-03-2017 , 01:25 AM

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https://www.buzzfeed.com/ryanhatesth...xlO#.kqBDv927v

The anti-fascism trolls trolling the pro-trump neo-nazi trolls of the internet

02-03-2017 , 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by zikzak

I will absolutely be participating in the March for Science on April 22 if the United States sill exists and it's not the middle of nuclear winter.

Bad weather isn't stopping the folks in Greenland from marching, don't see how that's an excuse.

02-03-2017 , 01:37 AM

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Four Democratic Defectors Join GOP to Confirm Exxon CEO as Secretary of State
Reason: oil PACs and Keystone XL pipeline proponents.

This election was just as much a coup for the fossil fuel industry as anyone else.

02-03-2017 , 01:50 AM

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Citing lagging sales, Nordstrom is dropping the Ivanka Trump collection after a boycott was launched against stores carrying the brand.

02-03-2017 , 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by stinkubus

This election was just as much a coup for the fossil fuel industry as anyone else.

You know which large autocratic country is a petro-state, right?

02-03-2017 , 02:03 AM

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Where do you hear about these protests before they happen? I seem to be behind the curb. Maybe go as a Storm Trooper or something.

02-03-2017 , 02:26 AM

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March for Science should be fun. Maybe I could rig up some solar powered something or other.

02-03-2017 , 02:44 AM

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I like this march for science, might be my first march. It's great that it lands on a Saturday, that should really help turnout as well!

02-03-2017 , 05:08 AM

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Originally Posted by np1235711

The current occupant of the Oval Office isn't pretending to be a democratically elected government. He IS the democratically elected government according to the long established laws of this particular country.

You fellas are going to have to get over it at sometime. The laws are what they are in the USA and they can be changed. The US Constitution has been amended 27 times I believe.

Until then.... welcome to our Orange Overloard.

Didn't the current occupant of the Oval Office claim that the elections were tainted?

http://www.stonekettle.com/

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And the President of the United States believes three million votes were illegally cast in the very election which put him in power.

What does that really mean?

If true:

It means the very Republic is in jeopardy.

It means the presidency, the congress, the court, all of it is illegitimate from Washington right on down to the local dog catcher.

It means no matter how the election turned out – all elections local, state, and federal – no matter who won, the results cannot be trusted and must be declared invalid.

It means We The People – no matter our individual political affiliations – cannot, must not, trust in the legitimacy of our government.

I'm a brit so I don't know how U.S. laws cover this, but surely this guy has a point?

02-03-2017 , 09:15 AM

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ecriture d'adulte

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Originally Posted by SeeTheMirage

You didn't read what I wrote. I am simply saying Berkeley should have said no right off the bat when he/student groups asked for him to speak there. It's completely reasonable for the administration to have standards when it comes to speakers and this moron certainly couldn't pass. So the right wing trolls are wrong in that free speech has nothing to do with it, Universities should just act like every other institution in the universe and place restrictions on who can use their facilities, like they already do in many other situations.

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02-03-2017 , 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by UthersGhost

Didn't the current occupant of the Oval Office claim that the elections were tainted?

http://www.stonekettle.com/

I'm a brit so I don't know how U.S. laws cover this, but surely this guy has a point?

No, US laws basically say "if you cheat enough, we'll put you in power and do nothing about it". There might be some lower level elections that can be overturned.