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11-09-2015 , 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Roonil Wazlib
i mean, look what's happened to ben carson thanks to the media!

Probably jump 10 points in the polls.
11-09-2015 , 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl


True non aggression principle in action.
I didn't realize that "I'm not touching you" and hay ho chants were still things.
11-10-2015 , 12:23 AM
Football players >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lol grad students ainec.
11-10-2015 , 12:44 AM
That video is painful to watch.
11-10-2015 , 01:07 AM
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Originally Posted by pvn
Is that at the Missouri protest? Why don't the protestors want media coverage?
They are running for the Republican presidential nomination and want to dictate the terms under which the media can cover them.
11-10-2015 , 01:31 AM
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Originally Posted by AsianNit
They are running for the Republican presidential nomination and want to dictate the terms under which the media can cover them.
A+
11-10-2015 , 01:35 AM
Flew home from Seattle today arriving around 3pm and so caught Bomani Jones' ESPN radio show. He was explaining that since there is tons of information out there on the web ("just Google it") about what's been going on in Mizzou he was just going to assume that anyone "just asking questions" about what happened was a straight-up racist.

Smart guy.
11-10-2015 , 01:58 AM
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Originally Posted by ElliotR
Flew home from Seattle today arriving around 3pm and so caught Bomani Jones' ESPN radio show. He was explaining that since there is tons of information out there on the web ("just Google it") about what's been going on in Mizzou he was just going to assume that anyone "just asking questions" about what happened was a straight-up racist.

Smart guy.
As long as he realises it's a default or a politically useful assumption rather than a conclusion then it is smart. Otherwise it's just another bozzo or playing to the crowd (which can also be smart to be fair)
11-10-2015 , 02:05 AM
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Originally Posted by DVaut1
I don't want to be that cynical, but this seems like a big victory for the political powers inherent in sports teams.

I think it is unclear if anything systemic was addressed but I think we've proven that if a high-revenue sports outfit threatens to not play at the last minute, everyone will pay attention.
A tad too cynical though that power helps hugely.

We have progressed to the point where publicity is itself enough to cause huge social pressure. it is a systematic change because it's not that long ago that people would just shrug. It's a big step forward because now the main solution is the oxygen of publicity which is itself getting much easier.
11-10-2015 , 03:08 AM
Yeah, pretty sure the thought of losing football revenue will lead school administrators to put their racial problems at the top of the agenda. I'll be surprised if any school protests around the country are taken lightly moving forward. Now we'll get to see what if any proposed systemic changes can make a difference. I mean, as long as a single ahole can cause outrage with racist graffiti or a drive by n-bomb, not to mention cop shootings, church burnings and the like, I'm afraid things will get worse before they get better.
11-10-2015 , 03:17 AM
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Originally Posted by FoldnDark
Yeah, pretty sure the thought of losing football revenue will lead school administrators to put their racial problems at the top of the agenda. I'll be surprised if any school protests around the country are taken lightly moving forward. Now we'll get to see what if any proposed systemic changes can make a difference. I mean, as long as a single ahole can cause outrage with racist graffiti or a drive by n-bomb, not to mention cop shootings, church burnings and the like, I'm afraid things will get worse before they get better.
Not at all sure they will get worse before they will get better but it's quite normal for dramatic improvements to coincide with us hearing a lot more about the problems that do occur giving the illusion things are getting worse when in fact they are getting better.

What will definitely happen (is happening) is that the relevant authorities will be far more inclined to tackle problems before we get to hear about them and that individuals will be far less likely to offend in the first place. That's all great stuff.
11-10-2015 , 03:27 AM
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Originally Posted by [Phill]
This guy being fired/forced to resign whatever for not acting like how his stakeholders demand should give conservatives wood. Its weird they are in favour of college of college employees not being forced to resign due to moral outrage. This week. Last week when it was about the stop on the word jesus guy they were demanding his removal.

This guy being fired/forced to resign whatever for not acting like how his stakeholders demand shouldn't give liberals wood. Its weird they are in favour of college of college employees being forced to resign due to moral outrage. This week. Last week when it was about the stop on the word jesus guy they were demanding he not be removed.

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Actual rational people think neither should have been forced to resign btw
11-10-2015 , 04:14 AM
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Originally Posted by PyramidScheme
You're right about me. I don't like using words improperly with the intent to win people over emotionally due to my actual arguments being weak.
Yeah, you just put those weak arguments out there as-is.
11-10-2015 , 04:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Wakko
Yeah, you just put those weak arguments out there as-is.
What's your actual point here?
11-10-2015 , 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by zikzak
The guy who shot this gets my vote for troll of the week.
The final clip of the woman asking for muscle to remove the reporter from a public space is the professor of media studies. Institutional stupidity on display
11-10-2015 , 09:41 AM
Just want to point out that legit not a single person upset at the Chancellor and President resigning have said that they were good at their job.

Not a single person is upset at the college deans who issued a vote of no confidence, the $4M/yr football coach who said he would pause all activities until they left, or the 2 Republican state reps who called for them to step down.

The entirety of their rage is focused on a group of ~20 black students.
11-10-2015 , 09:42 AM
Lol Elliot, lol idiot ESPN talking heads. Not everyone is up to date on a fifth tier university football program
11-10-2015 , 10:15 AM
sarchasm - noun - the divide between a sarcastic comment and a person who didn't get the joke
11-10-2015 , 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by PigeonPatrol
https://www.thefire.org/yale-student...lloween-email/


In other words, stop being so ****ing anal about every little thing in the world you don't like. Free speech is just that, an ability to say something someone else doesn't only disagree with, but that they also just plain don't like. Get over yourself as a lone arbiter of values. imo.
Setting aside how this is not just about an email and its just the final straw in a series of events where the administration there ignored institutional racism on campus, this is not free speech being shut down at all.

Free speech doesn't mean that you get to fail the people you represent and who pay your salary without your job being at risk.
11-10-2015 , 10:18 AM
11-10-2015 , 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by vhawk01
.....and vice versa right?
Sure. Protest of your representation failing you is free speech. If the protesters cannot make their case they shouldn't be kowtowed to.
11-10-2015 , 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by FoldnDark
I mean, as long as a single ahole can cause outrage with racist graffiti or a drive by n-bomb, not to mention cop shootings, church burnings and the like, I'm afraid things will get worse before they get better.
I am literally shocked (not shocked) that you think this is about "a single ahole" dropping a drive-by n-bomb. The rest of that sentence is #notagoodlook, either. "wow, our country is doomed, these soft wussy people get mad about a crappy church burning or some black kid (who probably deserved it) getting shot, AMIRITE GUYZ"
11-10-2015 , 11:12 AM
I mean, collectively, racist graffiti, cop shootings and church burnings could constitute a notable problem. In theory, anyway. But surely a single occurrence of these incidents should be chalked up to rounding error.
11-10-2015 , 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by pvn
I am literally shocked (not shocked) that you think this is about "a single ahole" dropping a drive-by n-bomb. The rest of that sentence is #notagoodlook, either. "wow, our country is doomed, these soft wussy people get mad about a crappy church burning or some black kid (who probably deserved it) getting shot, AMIRITE GUYZ"
Uh, #notagoodread. This is obviously not about a single ahole, but a long string of events that have come to a head. That's the point.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...h-human-feces/
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Then, two weeks later, Mizzou’s racial tensions flared again when someone used their own feces to smear a swastika on a communal bathroom wall in a brand new residence hall. The incident seemed to capture the college’s predicament: each attempt at a fresh start besmirched by old prejudices.
11-10-2015 , 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by [Phill]
Setting aside how this is not just about an email and its just the final straw in a series of events where the administration there ignored institutional racism on campus, this is not free speech being shut down at all.

Free speech doesn't mean that you get to fail the people you represent and who pay your salary without your job being at risk.
A final straw, yes. But not just about the accusations of institutional racism. The drama queen and her demand of an apology, and when the administrator said he wanted to think about the issue, to form a more informed opinion, she goes nuts about her need for an apology, like a 2 year old stamping their feet while on their back holding their breath. Is that what they want, a you're a special snowflake and deserve the world to placate your righteousness?

There's plenty of blame on both sides, but the mob mentality undermines their position. In the youtube exchanges I've seen the kids are petulant, they show disrespect for others opinions and right to assemble in a public place. They got the attention they wanted, but are now losing any high ground. The chants, "he doesn't deserve to be listened to". gmafb

      
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