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Omg guys. I met another specimen in the wild, genus and species Trumpbox wishcaster:

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Gender: Male.
Age: Early 30's.
Occupation: Something in sales.
Marital Status: Married, one child.
Education: Some community college, degree from an unaccredited four-year college in Oregon that doesn't use grades.
Ethnic Heritage: Very White.
Political Affiliation: Republican.
Religion: Generic Christian.
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Why Trump?: "Well, even if I don't agree with everything he says, who knows what he actually thinks? Could be anything! I mean, don't you want America to be great again?"
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Misc: Wallpaper on his phone is his wife and 2 year old daughter posing with a TRUMP lawn sign.
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03-01-2016 , 04:05 AM

#152

RainierWolfcastle

adept

Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 1,151

Finding out Steelhouse is in his 50s is like finding out that guy from BBV years back who was convinced he could grind out a living via play money games was in his 40s. The story goes from amusing to sad.

03-01-2016 , 05:05 AM

#153

Golfing_Stud

4L Fantasy Football Champion '14

Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 4,995

Gender: Male.
Age: 65.
Occupation: Retired Wizard.
Marital Status: Divorced.
Education: Ph.D.
Ethnic Heritage: White.
Political Affiliation: All that benefit him.
Religion: Christianity.
Why Trump?: "Treason to your heritage" not to vote Trump.
Misc: A former one-term Republican Louisiana State Representative.

Spoiler:

03-01-2016 , 06:53 AM

#154

problemeliminator

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 9,467

I always assumed steel house was <23

Someone profile Alex wice.

03-01-2016 , 08:19 AM

#155

suzzer99

Save the Cheerleader, Save the World

Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 99,984

Quote:

Originally Posted by RainierWolfcastle

How was he going to make money at play money games?

03-01-2016 , 08:25 AM

#156

problemeliminator

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 9,467

You can sell play money for real money.

03-01-2016 , 08:40 AM

#157

HiFi

Dented ovaries

Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 23,508

Quote:

Originally Posted by tracker2208

I made a stupid typo. You actually think they administer IQ tests before you qualify of disability. Who's the dumb ass here?

I know for a fact that they do. There were people in my brain injury program who had to do it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson

How do you know people aren't sandbagging those tests to get SSDI money?

I don't know. They might be. However, nobody is awarded SSDI solely on the basis of an IQ test. The score is used as a portion of a more comprehensive profile, including reports from medical professionals who sometimes haven't even seen those numbers. If you want to scam SSDI on the grounds of being intellectually disabled, you have to do a whole hell of a lot more than purposefully screw up one test.

Quote:

Originally Posted by tracker2208

They don't have to because they aren't given those types of tests when being evaluated for SSDI money. The tests they get are designed to evaluate their ability to function, not whether then can tell you when 2 trains will pass each other given starting distance and speed.

Don't let the fact that DrChessPain is doubling down be confused with him actually knowing what he's talking about.

For certain types of cognitive impairments, an IQ test is part of the evaluation process. DCP isn't confused. He's right.

03-01-2016 , 08:50 AM

#158

HiFi

Dented ovaries

Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 23,508

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wooders0n

I may not agree with your posting, but I'll defend to the death your right to post this gif specifically.

03-01-2016 , 09:18 AM

#159

Jiggymike

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 13,420

Here's something that a Trump supporter I know shared on Facebook. It's surprisingly well written for the content, and I know it's kinda tl;dr so I'll give you some of the highlights:

Obama is a Marxist
The world is at war with radical Islam
People are mad about Chevy Volts
Reagan didn't get rid of the Dept of Education because someone tried to assassinate him
Global warming is fake
I'm really angry

Quote:

Who is Donald Trump?

The better question may be, "What is Donald Trump?" The answer: A giant middle finger from average Americans to the political and media establishment.
Most Trump supporters have simply had it with the Demosocialists and the "Republicans in Name Only." They know there isn't a dime's worth of difference between Hillary Rodham and Jeb Bush, and only a few cents worth between Rodham and the other GOP candidates.

Ben Carson is not an "establishment" candidate, but the Clinton machine would pulverize Carson, and the somewhat rebellious Ted Cruz will (justifiably so) be tied up with natural born citizen lawsuits (as might Marco Rubio). The Trump supporters figure they may as well have some fun tossing Molotov cocktails at Wall Street and Georgetown while they watch the nation collapse.
Besides, lightning might strike, Trump might get elected, and he might actually fix a few things. Stranger things have happened. (The nation elected a Marxist in 2008 and Bruce Jenner now wears designer dresses.)

Millions of conservatives are justifiably furious. They gave the Republicans control of the House in 2010 and control of the Senate in 2014 and have seen them govern no differently than Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid. Yet those same voters are supposed to trust the GOP in 2016? Why? Trump did not come from out of nowhere. His candidacy was created by the last six years of Republican failures.

No reasonable person can believe that any of the establishment candidates will slash federal spending, rein in the Federal Reserve, cut burdensome business regulations, reform the tax code, or eliminate useless federal departments (the Departments of Education, Housing and Urban Development, Energy, etc.). Even Ronald Reagan was unable to eliminate the Department of Education. (Of course, getting shot at tends to make a person less of a risk-taker.) No reasonable person can believe that any of the nation's major problems will be solved by Rodham, Bush, and the other dishers of donkey fazoo now eagerly eating corn in Iowa and pancakes in New Hampshire.
Many Americans, and especially Trump supporters, have had it with:
Anyone named Bush
Anyone named Clinton
Anyone who's held political office
Political correctness
Illegal immigration
Massive unemployment
Phony "official" unemployment and inflation figures
Welfare waste and fraud
People faking disabilities to go on the dole
VA waiting lists
TSA airport groping
ObamaCare
The Federal Reserve's money-printing schemes
Wall Street crooks like Jon Corzine
Michelle Obama's vacations
Michelle Obama's food police
Barack Obama's golf
Barack Obama's arrogant and condescending lectures
Barack Obama's criticism/hatred of America
Valerie Jarrett
"Holiday trees"
Hollywood hypocrites
Global warming nonsense
Cop killers
Gun confiscation threats
Stagnant wages
Chevy Volts
Clock boy
Pajama boy
Mattress girl
Boys in girls' bathrooms
Whiny, spoiled college students who can't even place the Civil War in the correct century
. . .and that's just the short list.

Trump supporters believe that no Democrat wants to address these issues, and that few Republicans have the courage to address these issues. They certainly know that none of the establishment candidates are better than barely listening to them, and Trump is their way of saying, "Screw you, Hillary Rodham Rove Bush!" The more the talking head political pundits insult the
Trump supporters, the more supporters he gains. (The only pundits who seem to understand what is going on are Democrats Doug Schoen and Pat Caddell and Republican John LeBoutillier. All the others argue that the voters will eventually "come to their senses" and support an establishment candidate.)
But America does not need a tune-up at the same old garage. It needs a new engine installed by experts--and neither Rodham nor Bush are mechanics with the skills or experience to install it.

Hillary Rodham is not a mechanic; she merely manages a garage her philandering husband abandoned. Jeb Bush is not a mechanic; he merely inherited a garage. Granted, Trump is also not a mechanic, but he knows where to find the best ones to work in his garage. He won't hire his brother-in-law or someone to whom he owes a favor; he will hire someone who lives and breathes cars.

"How dare they revolt!" the "elites" are bellowing. Well, the citizens are daring to revolt, and the RINOs had better get used to it. "But Trump will hand the election to Clinton!" That is what the Karl Rove-types want people to believe, just as the leftist media eagerly shoved "Maverick" McCain down GOP throats in 2008--knowing he would lose to Obama. But even if Trump loses and Rodham wins, she would not be dramatically different than Bush or most of his fellow candidates. They would be nothing more than caretakers, not working to restore America's greatness but merely presiding over the collapse of a massively in-debt nation. A nation can perhaps survive open borders; a nation can perhaps survive a generous welfare system. But no nation can survive both--and there is little evidence that the establishment candidates of either party understand that. The United States cannot forever continue on the path it is on.
At some point it will be destroyed by its debt.

Yes, Trump speaks like a bull wanders through a china shop, but the truth is that the borders do need to be sealed; we cannot afford to feed, house, and clothe 200,000 Syrian immigrants for decades (even if we get inordinately lucky and none of them are ISIS infiltrators or Syed Farook wannabes); the world is at war with radical Islamists; all the world's glaciers are not melting; and Rosie O'Donnell is a fat pig.

Is Trump the perfect candidate? Of course not. Neither was Ronald Reagan. But unless we close our borders and restrict immigration, all the other issues are irrelevant. One terrorist blowing up a bridge or a tunnel could kill thousands. One jihadist poisoning a city's water supply could kill tens of thousands. One electromagnetic pulse attack from a single Iranian nuclear device could kill tens of millions. Faced with those possibilities, most Americans probably don't care that Trump relied on eminent domain to grab up a final quarter acre of property for a hotel, or that he boils the blood of the Muslim Brotherhood thugs running the Council on American Islamic Relations.

While Attorney General Loretta Lynch's greatest fear is someone giving a Muslim a dirty look, most Americans are more worried about being gunned down at a shopping mall by a crazed lunatic who treats his prayer mat better than his three wives and who thinks 72 virgins are waiting for him in paradise.
The establishment is frightened to death that Trump will win, but not because they believe he will harm the nation. They are afraid he will upset their taxpayer-subsidized apple carts. While Obama threatens to veto legislation that spends too little, they worry that Trump will veto legislation that spends too much. You can be certain that if an establishment candidate wins in November 2016, his or her cabinet positions will be filled with the same people we've seen before. The washed-up has-beens of the Clinton and Bush administrations will be back in charge. The hacks from Goldman Sachs will continue to call the shots. Whether it is Bush's Karl Rove or Clinton's John Podesta who makes the decisions in the White House will matter little. If the establishment wins, America loses.

03-01-2016 , 03:07 PM

#160

HiFi

Dented ovaries

Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 23,508

Holy tldr ain't nobody got time for that

03-01-2016 , 04:37 PM

#161

parttimepro

old hand

Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,281

Quote:

Originally Posted by RainierWolfcastle

I just found this out now, but I'm not surprised. Young people, if they believe stupid things, tend to buy into a whole set at once. Whether it's Libertarianism or Social Anarchism, they choose a whole family of related beliefs.

Steelhouse clearly began with Ayn Rand, but he's had decades to season his worldview with various idiosyncrasies. There are pretty much no 20-somethings who believe that vehemently that corporate takeovers/buyouts are theft from shareholders.

On an investment forum I frequent, it's mostly older guys, mostly conservative, and there are a few like him.

03-01-2016 , 04:42 PM

#162

BigPoppa

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Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 22,216

"What is TRUMP? A giant middle finger..."

is the best summation of his candidacy I've seen yet.

03-01-2016 , 07:20 PM

#163

SuperUberBob

Not interesting enough

Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 48,217

Gender: Female.
Age: Mid-50's.
Occupation: Secretary
Marital Status: Widowed, 3 children
Education: High school education
Ethnic Heritage: Irish
Political Affiliation: Republican
Religion: Catholic
Why Trump?: He isn't afraid of anybody and lacks political correctness. He's not weak like Obama.
Misc: She's my mother.

03-01-2016 , 07:39 PM

#164

suzzer99

Save the Cheerleader, Save the World

Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 99,984

When one of your primary issues is political correctness, you have very small problems.

03-03-2016 , 05:17 PM

#165

ccotenj

veteran

Join Date: Dec 2015 Posts: 2,073

til from a trump supporter that hrc has been a lying pos since watergate.

profile:
male, 30ish.
unknown person sitting a few seats away from me at a bar at lunch.

ranted quite impressively and profanely, about how not only how they are gonna finally get that ******* outta office, but he sure isn't being replaced by < insert everything you have heard about hrc and then some > **** bitch who has been lying since watergate. and yes, he went watergate several times. somewhere along the line i figured he'd eventually correct to whitewater, but nope.

he was with another couple guys, who couldn't get a word in edgewise except to agree.

* always, of course, carefully looking around and dropping his voice. racist piece of ****.

03-03-2016 , 11:48 PM

#166

hornbug

grinder

Join Date: Jun 2015 Posts: 657

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wooders0n

this gif makes me think of Paul McCartney

03-04-2016 , 01:56 AM

#167

suzzer99

Save the Cheerleader, Save the World

Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 99,984

Gender: Male.
Age: 40.
Occupation: Editor
Marital Status: single I think
Education: bachelors
Ethnic Heritage: white
Political Affiliation: was more liberal, turning strongly conservative
Religion: none
Why Trump?: Seems to change daily. Loves seeing the establishment torn down. Other candidates suck. Anything that makes liberals squirm is awesome.
Misc: Said this:

Quote:

I don't think they have. I think that is a pure fabrication. There have been a few isolated incidents and some provocative comments but otherwise what is this perceived rise of white supremacy? A mildly offensive billboard in Arkansas or a BLM protestor getting smacked around do not a wave of racial hatred make.

Quote:

Yeah it's full on racist. But my point is it's not inciting racial violence. So again, what's your evidence of the hoi polloi going full racist? A handful of media narratives on leftist alt media?

About this billboard that Ted Cruz's BFF thought was fine:

How do you argue with that other than to tell the person they're a racist, which I did? We're on this political mailing list with a bunch of his buddies and relatives from Georgia. It seems like he's even starting to scare the conservative ones a bit.

03-04-2016 , 07:01 AM

#168

tracker2208

centurion

Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 128

Quote:

Originally Posted by HiFi

I know for a fact that they do. There were people in my brain injury program who had to do it... For certain types of cognitive impairments, an IQ test is part of the evaluation process. DCP isn't confused. He's right.

How many people do you know, or do you know of, that are on disability? What are they on it for? Usually it's something physical, like they are going blind, have a bad back, that sort of thing. Or they have some kind of mental issue like some kind of psychosis, PTSD, severe depression, that sort of thing. IQ is not relevant in most cases, so a test is only administered in a tiny amount of cases.

But he wasn't even necessarily saying much about IQ testing and disability entitlement. What he said was:

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrChesspain

The vast majority of people who have their IQ formally tested undergo this testing while being evaluated for services like special education or Social Security Disability.

This statement is ridiculous. Most people who have taken an IQ test did so in relation to their schooling. This would hold true even if every person on SSD was required to take an IQ test. He was simply trying to pile on and give me crap for a silly typo I made. His first statement is stupid, his second statement was him doubling down on stupid.

To be honest this is to be expected in any thread related to Trump.

03-04-2016 , 08:35 AM

#169

DrChesspain

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tracker2208

This statement is ridiculous. Most people who have taken an IQ test did so in relation to their schooling. This would hold true even if every person on SSD was required to take an IQ test. He was simply trying to pile on and give me crap for a silly typo I made. His first statement is stupid, his second statement was him doubling down on stupid.

To be honest this is to be expected in any thread related to Trump.

What "typo" are you taking about?

03-04-2016 , 11:07 AM

#170

sweep single

banned

Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 2,558

I work at a tool and die company. Working class probably about 90% Trump supporters. The most common points they say are. He's not a career politician. He's not taking money from special interest. No one could be worse than Hillary for the country.

03-04-2016 , 02:20 PM

#171

Biggle10

veteran

Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 2,993

Quote:

Originally Posted by suzzer99

When one of your primary issues is political correctness, you have very small problems.

I see this mentioned a lot. Can someone explain to me what is meant by this? and/or what Trump supporters are saying when they say its a problem?

03-04-2016 , 02:40 PM

#172

BigPoppa

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Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 22,216

Charitable: PC culture is an attempt to restrict speech and control what opinions are acceptable, leading to a loss of freedom to discuss things openly in the marketplace of ideas

Less charitable: Not free to say racist/sexist stuff any more

03-04-2016 , 06:05 PM

#173

microbet

Solar Powered

Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 56,485

Quote:

Originally Posted by sweep single

Flip them to Bernie. I've gotten two working class HS degree or less guys to switch. Everything they say applies to Bernie, except Trump is switching positions left and right.

03-04-2016 , 06:46 PM

#174

tracker2208

centurion

Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 128

Quote:

Originally Posted by Biggle10

I see this mentioned a lot. Can someone explain to me what is meant by this? and/or what Trump supporters are saying when they say its a problem?

Political correctness is used to shut down debates on important topics. For example if you say illegal Mexican immigrants disproportionately make up rape and murder convictions in border states that racists. If you say legal muslim immigrants are the most likely type of legal immigrant to commit a terrorist act that's Islamophobic. If you argue for due process for those accused of rape and sexual assault that's misogyny and rape culture.

03-04-2016 , 07:22 PM

#175

punter11235

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Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 8,210

I am not an American so I don't get to vote but I know two people who will, so here we go:

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Gender: Female.
Age: Early 30s
Occupation: Programmer, worked as a translator as well (speaks several languages)
Marital Status: Married
Education: Ivy League college, masters in comp-sci
Ethnic Heritage: Legal immigrant, Caucasian
Political Affiliation: None, self describes as libertarian
Religion: Atheist
Why Trump?: "Most sensible guy out there; not corrupt, has sensible views on education, immigration (other than deporting 11.5M people which she hopes won't happen), protectionism"
Misc: one of the smartest people I know
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Gender: Male
Age: Mid 30s
Occupation: Programmer, trader, works on Wall Street
Marital Status: Married
Education: One of the top univs in the country, comp-sci
Ethnic Heritage: 100% Asian, parents were legal immigrants
Political Affiliation: Repub
Religion: doesn't care about that
Why Trump?: "Ok guy, knows how to run things, will do better than professional politicians"
Misc: very down to earth pragmatic guy; great work ethics; runs his own business
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