Open Side Menu Go to the Top
Register
President, Elizabeth Warren President, Elizabeth Warren

08-04-2014 , 12:38 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RowCoach
I've done it now twice!! If you couldn't comprehend the first two times. Why should I bother? Lol. Is this how you would make your arguments in Law school?
lolololol you guys a the nutlow worst

Forgetting the fact many people with Native American ancestry don't appear on the Dawes rolls, and many who have no Native American ancestry do, neither you nor ikes has provided a single shred of evidence to support your claim that WERN LIED BOUT BEIN INJUN!

that's the chicken you two were trying to keep ****ing, as it was so eloquently put earlier
08-04-2014 , 12:47 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RowCoach
The fact you think Chavez was elected in anything close to free and fair elections after the first one that got him into office says everything about your bias in the matter. Do a little ****ing research. He was an autocrat that used every arm of the state to "win" his elections. Of which the election results still are in question. He also did everything in his power to destroy democracy in the country of Venezuela and did a good job of it as you can tell by looking at the state of the country.
Every one of his presidential electoral victories was certified as free and fair by international observers. Do your own research bub.
08-04-2014 , 12:49 AM
Quote:
"Being Native American has been part of my story I guess since the day I was born," Warren told the Boston Herald in early May. "These are my family stories, I have lived in a family that has talked about Native American and talked about tribes since I was a little girl."

in 1984 she contributed five recipes to the Pow Wow Chow cookbook published by the Five Civilized Tribes Museum in Muskogee, signing the items, "Elizabeth Warren -- Cherokee."
From the Atlantic article I posted earlier. Harvard and some law school directory listed her as Native American. She must have claimed this at some point or another for them to have done so. Jeez you people are dense.

Last edited by RowCoach; 08-04-2014 at 12:55 AM.
08-04-2014 , 12:53 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by problemeliminator
Every one of his presidential electoral victories was certified as free and fair by international observers. Do your own research bub.
Well... they weren't. I'll be happy to debate you on this in another thread. We even have one on Venezuela and Chavez already.
08-04-2014 , 12:57 AM
And maybe it is unfair that you have to have a direct ancestor on the Dawes rolls to claim to be Indian but the tribes themselves hold this standard, not angry jimmy rustling white conservatives. Don't take it up with me, take that up with them. She could also take a blood test to prove the naysayers wrong.
08-04-2014 , 01:07 AM
Id still love to hear why Warren is so radical and dangerous.
08-04-2014 , 01:10 AM
Yeah it's so weird how libertarians/conservatives tend to signal sympathy towards Orwell. He would've HATED you, Row, and if you were actually aware of his body of work you'd hate him right back.
08-04-2014 , 01:11 AM
I will explain how she is radical tomorrow. But by dangerous, I meant politically speaking. Not like dangerous to the American people. Poor choice of words on my part.
08-04-2014 , 01:13 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by np1235711
Well... I'm guessing Sen Cruz meets that description quite well, no? And he didn't have to embellish his resume, either.
LOL good luck, kid. Like I said, we're all just quaking in our boots over here. He's just super super smart and really loves America, Jesus, and the Constitution. Plus there's that one Dershowitz quote. I mean, ****, it's OVER.

Seriously, that's exactly what I'm talking about. You get one guy whose insane Dad made him go to Harvard and who rode the wingnut welfare train from there to the Senate and I think in your mind that IS an intellectual.

Here's the thing, though. I'm pretty sure Elizabeth Warren is capable of following Dr. Seuss books, "embellished resume" and all! Not so for ye old Canadian anchor baby.
08-04-2014 , 01:16 AM
I've read both 1984 and Animal farm Fly. I've also heard an an entire 1 hour EconTalk podcast on his biography. I doubt he would "hate me" lol and just because he was a lefty doesn't discount the use of libertarians quoting his works to highlight governments acting in a totalitarian manner lol. You don't get exclusive rights to quote someone due to their ideology lol.
08-04-2014 , 01:19 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RowCoach
And maybe it is unfair that you have to have a direct ancestor on the Dawes rolls to claim to be Indian but the tribes themselves hold this standard, not angry jimmy rustling white conservatives. Don't take it up with me, take that up with them. She could also take a blood test to prove the naysayers wrong.
Or, you know, you could not call her a liar.
08-04-2014 , 01:24 AM
Cruz graduated at the top of his law class at Harvard. The best college debater of his day. He was editor for the Harvard law review, an adjunct law professor for University of Texas, law clerk for a Chief Justice of SCOTUS, argued cases and won at SCOTUS.

He's brilliant and by any qualification an "intellectual".
08-04-2014 , 01:30 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by longmissedblind
Or, you know, you could not call her a liar.
When someone makes a claim the burden is on them to support said claim. She hasn't. And it's not just me that's taken issue with her it was Native American groups within the Democratic Party that did so along with the Brown campaign. On college applications, she said she was white when having the opportunity to claim to be Native American. Then later in life, she claimed to be NA. At some point she knowingly lied.

Going to sleep now before you guys shift the goalposts.
08-04-2014 , 01:31 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by problemeliminator
The fact that you call them "commies" only reinforces the point. Both are democratic socialists. On the far left sure, but of an entirely different kind than Communists.

BTW we do have "those kind" here. He goes by the name Bernie Sanders.

BTW still waiting for some of her political views that are radical.
When Obama, a right leaning centrist, is a "radical socialist" all that is to the left is communism.

Which just shows how ****ed up America's political spectrum is.
08-04-2014 , 01:37 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by np1235711
Phill,

Seriously.... from what frame of reference would Hillary be thought of as "right leaning"?

Other than the denizens of this board, what percentage of Americans (in your opinion) would look at Hillary as objectively "right leaning"?
That Americans can't identify a right leaning centrist doesn't invalidate where she sits on the spectrum.

Last edited by [Phill]; 08-04-2014 at 01:51 AM.
08-04-2014 , 01:51 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RowCoach
Cruz graduated at the top of his law class at Harvard. The best college debater of his day. He was editor for the Harvard law review, an adjunct law professor for University of Texas, law clerk for a Chief Justice of SCOTUS, argued cases and won at SCOTUS.

He's brilliant and by any qualification an "intellectual".
Being the smartest guy on the short bus isn't a threat. Cruz can never out debate his own words and he will get crushed if he were to win the nomination because his moral bankruptcy can only take him so far.

Somewhere there is a Hillary employee putting together dossiers of the potential winners and his easiest day of oppo research was Cruz.
08-04-2014 , 01:53 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by np1235711
Phill,

Seriously.... from what frame of reference would Hillary be thought of as "right leaning"?

Other than the denizens of this board, what percentage of Americans (in your opinion) would look at Hillary as objectively "right leaning"?
If Hillary were in Germany or the the UK she definitely would be in their conservative parties.

The US has an extremely narrow "acceptable" political spectrum. And that spectrum is shifted much further to the right than in most developed countries. When looking at politics from a global perspective she is very much center/center-right.
08-04-2014 , 02:04 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RowCoach
When someone makes a claim the burden is on them to support said claim. She hasn't. And it's not just me that's taken issue with her it was Native American groups within the Democratic Party that did so along with the Brown campaign. On college applications, she said she was white when having the opportunity to claim to be Native American. Then later in life, she claimed to be NA. At some point she knowingly lied.

Going to sleep now before you guys shift the goalposts.
The bold part is the part where you make an assertion not based on fact. DUCY?
08-04-2014 , 06:52 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by longmissedblind
The bold part is the part where you make an assertion not based on fact. DUCY?
Okay... at some point she thought she had lied. Happy?
08-04-2014 , 07:06 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by [Phill]
That Americans can't identify a right leaning centrist doesn't invalidate where she sits on the spectrum.
She's not a right leaning centrist, we're not in the UK or Germany. We're in the United States, and here, she is a leading member or the Democratic party. The progressive leftist party. That is where she stands. You are so self centered and so self righteous, you think the world evolves around what your country or continent's political spectrum is.

Like why should we give a damn where her current policies would put her in Germany or the UK? Sure it's an interesting case model of how the political spectrum changes from country to country, but that's about it.

Also, I doubt she would be conservative in the UK or Germany. She would probably place herself on the same spot in the spectrum relatively. So in Germany or in the UK she would probably just be that much more leftist.
08-04-2014 , 07:35 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RowCoach
Okay... at some point she thought she had lied. Happy?
See, you're doing that whole thing where you make **** up again. Oh, but that chicken is clucking in your ear so gently...

Last edited by Trolly McTrollson; 08-04-2014 at 07:41 AM.
08-04-2014 , 07:57 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
See, you're doing that whole thing where you make **** up again. Oh, but that chicken is clucking in your ear so gently...
lol, do I have to quote the Atlantic article for you also? For student applications to Rutgers and other colleges, she put her race down as white. Then when she was hired as a professor for Harvard and other colleges, she was Native American. At some point she must have thought she lied. I'm not making this out to be a big deal, but let's not deny reality. I'm not just making **** up. She actually did this.
08-04-2014 , 08:38 AM
*yawn*

You've got no evidence that she isn't part NA, no evidence that she didn't think she was part NA, and no evidence that the supposed lie helped her in any way.
08-04-2014 , 08:41 AM
A complete lack of evidence that she is part NA isn't evidence that she isn't part NA!

Brilliant! Again, I'll remember that one.

She didn't start listing herself as NA for over a decade of her career and never claimed to be NA in any undergrad or law school applications. Oh well for no evidence that she didn't think she was part NA.
08-04-2014 , 09:56 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RowCoach
I disagree, I think she's pretty radical but knows how to appear low key. I think she's really dangerous.

      
m