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08-01-2014 , 11:10 PM
Man I love this game. Forum liberals love ripping Paul's plagiarism, stupidly defends and/or downplays Warren lying about her heritage throughout her academic career.

Wonderful.
08-02-2014 , 12:38 AM
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Originally Posted by dessin d'enfant
Yeah, I'm saying we pretty much do know. Harvard faculty isn't dumb enough to let a white women become a prof largely because they knew (which isn't even certain) that she claimed to be 1/16th cherokee or whatever. If she knowingly lied about it thats a big problem, but no reason to go full ******.
Sorry for the typo....misspelled "full ikes".
08-02-2014 , 09:39 AM
The new birthers.

Inb4 Trump gets involved.

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08-02-2014 , 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by dessin d'enfant
Sorry for the typo....misspelled "full ikes".
Lol, she obviously did knowingly lie. She's using the Ron Paul newsletter defense, and you guys are partisan enough to actually believe it.
08-02-2014 , 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by ikestoys
Lol, she obviously did knowingly lie. She's using the Ron Paul newsletter defense, and you guys are partisan enough to actually believe it.
Or what I actually said....its a big deal if she knowingly lied (enough to lose a job or not be potus) but its stupid to think that she got a job at harvard because of that lie.
08-02-2014 , 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by dessin d'enfant
Or what I actually said....its a big deal if she knowingly lied (enough to lose a job or not be potus) but its stupid to think that she got a job at harvard because of that lie.
Yes and I haven't actually said she got the job simply because she claimed to be Native American. She did lie, and you're calling me a full ****** for saying that. Get your **** together.
08-02-2014 , 10:42 AM
Nobody knows whether or not she actually is part Native American and it might be impossible to know, she might have heard it by word of mouth passed down from her grandparents or something, she might have read it in family documents, she might have made it up. We don't know, it doesn't matter, nobody cares.
08-02-2014 , 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by ikestoys
Yes and I haven't actually said she got the job simply because she claimed to be Native American. She did lie, and you're calling me a full ****** for saying that. Get your **** together.
The last 6 posts before your ridiculous comparison to paulbots was how "we don't know!!!!!" how much her 1/16 Cherokee claim helped (that hasn't been confirmed to be known by the faculty at that time, and hasn't been confirmed to be false or confirmed to be an intentional lie on her part) in her week long grueling Harvard faculty interviews. Hence the full ikes, which granted, is more of a lifetime achievement award anyway.
08-02-2014 , 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by dessin d'enfant
The last 6 posts before your ridiculous comparison to paulbots was how "we don't know!!!!!" how much her 1/16 Cherokee claim helped (that hasn't been confirmed to be known by the faculty at that time, and hasn't been confirmed to be false or confirmed to be an intentional lie on her part) in her week long grueling Harvard faculty interviews. Hence the full ikes, which granted, is more of a lifetime achievement award anyway.
So you're basically make up things I said? Awesome. You should agree with me based on your statement if she lied its a big deal. That fake princeton education is failing you.
08-02-2014 , 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by ikestoys
So you're basically make up things I said? Awesome. You should agree with me based on your statement if she lied its a big deal. That fake princeton education is failing you.
Yes, if she lied its a big deal for political aspirations and any employer can fire her if they want to (or decide its not a big enough deal and do nothing). You are the only one certain that she did purposefully lie and are broadly painting my stance, amongst others, as paulbotish.
08-02-2014 , 11:10 AM
http://www.skwirk.com/p-c_s-56_u-427...ion/background

Why does Elizabeth Warren and the far left's thinking seem so similar to Karl Marx?
08-02-2014 , 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by dessin d'enfant
Yes, if she lied its a big deal for political aspirations and any employer can fire her if they want to (or decide its not a big enough deal and do nothing). You are the only one certain that she did purposefully lie and are broadly painting my stance, amongst others, as paulbotish.
That's because it is. Warren claimed to be Native American for years, and was put in a report claiming she was a woman of color. It takes a special kind of naïveté to believe she was uninvolved in those actions.
08-02-2014 , 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by neg3sd
http://www.skwirk.com/p-c_s-56_u-427...ion/background

Why does Elizabeth Warren and the far left's thinking seem so similar to Karl Marx?
I'm not sure which is worse, that you asked such a ridiculous question or that you linked to a grammar school homework site to illustrate it.
08-02-2014 , 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Riverman
Nobody seemed too worked up about W getting in everywhere because of daddy
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Warren’s Resume

Warren taught at the following law schools:

Rutgers University: 1977-1978

University of Houston: 1978-1983

University of Texas (Austin): 1981-1987

University of Pennsylvania: 1987-1992, 1993-1995

Harvard University: 1992-1993, 1995-present

A Boston Globe profile of the Democratic candidate’s teaching career noted that her “law degree from Rutgers University made her the only tenured Harvard Law School professor trained at an American public law school.”

Regardless of whether Warren’s self-proclaimed Native American background helped her win coveted jobs with UPenn and Harvard, she had some notable accomplishments going for her. For example, she did groundbreaking research while teaching at the University of Texas at Austin School of Law on how the nation’s bankruptcy code was affecting average families.

Warren and two colleagues studied court records to determine who was filing for bankruptcy and why. They found that single catastrophic events -- such as medical problems or unemployment -- rather than dereliction often caused working-class families to renege on debt.

This work put Warren at the cutting edge of a new school of legal thought that emphasized real impacts on people’s lives rather than mere theory. It also led to her first book, “As We Forgive Our Debtors,” which won the American Bar Association’s Silver Gavel Award after it was published in 1989.

Warren went on to write bankruptcy- related articles for The Yale Law Journal in 1992, and Michigan Law Review in 1993. She didn’t write another book until 2000, five years after she started working at Harvard and 11 years after her first book.

After Warren began teaching at Harvard, she served on a commission that helped overhaul the federal bankruptcy laws in 1997. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) also appointed her in 2008 to chair a Congressional panel that oversaw the bank bailouts.

Clearly W was more qualified.

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Last edited by bernie; 08-02-2014 at 11:40 AM.
08-02-2014 , 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by ikestoys
That's because it is. Warren claimed to be Native American for years, and was put in a report claiming she was a woman of color. It takes a special kind of naïveté to believe she was uninvolved in those actions.
Not sure what it is in this sentence....but again, we don't know if she has some grandparent with part Cherokee heritage or was at least incorrectly told that as a child and later on. Either of which largely exonerate her in my opinion. The claims of being a "women of color" seem to come from University press releases, which are notoriously terrible and written with almost 0 influence from faculty. I've shown nonsensical press releases about papers I worked on with full professor co authors that they just shrugged off with "yeah, lol standard press release". Its complete ignorance to think that she had to have been involved in those actions.
08-02-2014 , 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by dessin d'enfant
Not sure what it is in this sentence.....
Desperation?

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08-02-2014 , 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by dessin d'enfant
Not sure what it is in this sentence....but again, we don't know if she has some grandparent with part Cherokee heritage or was at least incorrectly told that as a child and later on. Either of which largely exonerate her in my opinion. The claims of being a "women of color" seem to come from University press releases, which are notoriously terrible and written with almost 0 influence from faculty. I've shown nonsensical press releases about papers I worked on with full professor co authors that they just shrugged off with "yeah, lol standard press release". Its complete ignorance to think that she had to have been involved in those actions.
We have plenty of information about warrens grandparents. Being told as a child doesn't excuse making the claim as an adult midway through your career without confirming the information. She was included in the press release because she claimed to be Native American, not because the school made it up. Ron Paul newsletter denial level naïveté itt confirmed.
08-02-2014 , 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by ikestoys
We have plenty of information about warrens grandparents. Being told as a child doesn't excuse making the claim as an adult midway through your career without confirming the information. She was included in the press release because she claimed to be Native American, not because the school made it up. Ron Paul newsletter denial level naïveté itt confirmed.
You'd have a better comparison if she came from University of Warren. Then you could claim she should've known about the public relations within the university.

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08-02-2014 , 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by ikestoys
We have plenty of information about warrens grandparents. Being told as a child doesn't excuse making the claim as an adult midway through your career without confirming the information. She was included in the press release because she claimed to be Native American, not because the school made it up. Ron Paul newsletter denial level naïveté itt confirmed.
Ikes level Ikes itt. We've gone from LYING.....to well maybe she is guilty of "not confirming largely irrelevant parental lineage on a resume". By your rate of learning maybe in 10 more posts we can get you to admit that maybe she does have some random Cherokee lineage and you will be caught up to literally everybody else itt from moment 1. Awful, awful stuff man.
08-02-2014 , 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by bernie
Clearly W was more qualified.

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WTF???

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Warren and two colleagues studied court records to determine who was filing for bankruptcy and why. They found that single catastrophic events -- such as medical problems or unemployment -- rather than dereliction often caused working-class families to renege on debt.
Sooooooo.... being an 'expert' on bankruptcy makes one qualified to be President?

And I just love her 'groundbreaking research'.... she (with the help of 2 colleagues) divined often bankruptcy is caused by, wait a minute..... not just yet.... ****ing unemployment!!!! Or serious medical problems!!!!

Whodathunkit. Only on the far left is the notion unemployment can cause bankruptcy breaking news if you aren't a trust fund baby. That kind of out of the box thinking is certainly the stuff of Presidential timber!

You fellas are awfully funny defending a member of your tribe.
08-02-2014 , 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by dessin d'enfant
Ikes level Ikes itt. We've gone from LYING.....to well maybe she is guilty of "not confirming largely irrelevant parental lineage on a resume". By your rate of learning maybe in 10 more posts we can get you to admit that maybe she does have some random Cherokee lineage and you will be caught up to literally everybody else itt from moment 1. Awful, awful stuff man.
You don't have to keep confirming the newsletter level denial.... it's already done.
08-02-2014 , 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by schu_22
Nobody knows whether or not she actually is part Native American and it might be impossible to know, she might have heard it by word of mouth passed down from her grandparents or something, she might have read it in family documents, she might have made it up. We don't know, it doesn't matter, nobody cares.
To be fair, if she made it up, that is kind of important.

It's not at all likely that's what happened, though.

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Originally Posted by dessin d'enfant
We've gone from LYING.....to well maybe she is guilty of "not confirming largely irrelevant parental lineage on a resume".
lol ikes walk it back
08-02-2014 , 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by np1235711
WTF???



Sooooooo.... being an 'expert' on bankruptcy makes one qualified to be President?

And I just love her 'groundbreaking research'.... she (with the help of 2 colleagues) divined often bankruptcy is caused by, wait a minute..... not just yet.... ****ing unemployment!!!! Or serious medical problems!!!!

Whodathunkit. Only on the far left is the notion unemployment can cause bankruptcy breaking news if you aren't a trust fund baby. That kind of out of the box thinking is certainly the stuff of Presidential timber!

You fellas are awfully funny defending a member of your tribe.
LOL minus the 9 other parts of her resume listed. (many(including conservs who blame those bankrupt on their own choices) thought the cause for bankruptcy was in overspending on luxury items--in fact, that was what Warren thought it would show.)

Even so, the comparison was with W. Whose only major accomplishment was being born to the right parents. Minus that, he doesn't come anywhere near political office.

But you guys keep acting like it's the same as Lance Armstrong failing a drug test.

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08-02-2014 , 01:32 PM
Man, if this fauxcahontas thing is the best dirt on Warren, maybe she's got a legit shot at the White House.
08-02-2014 , 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by ikestoys
You don't have to keep confirming the newsletter level denial.... it's already done.
Hahah, right. The side saying that she could have lied, could have been misled by relatives or could be telling a truth that was twisted terribly in an artcile written by somebody else is the same as the "ron paul did nothing wrong ever and certainly not wrt to the racist newsletters written in his own name that he admits to lying about, giving the excuse of "well, it was in the middle of a campaign!" while he was in the middle of another campaign" crowd. Like I said awful, awful derp and getting into bad even for you territory.

Last edited by dessin d'enfant; 08-02-2014 at 02:20 PM.

      
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