I'm getting ready to head out to nourishment lunch, bbl

Don't let the door portal plank hit you on your posterior ass on your way out.

1. It's disgusting how you conservative punks think you are entitled to what you work for.

2. What's next are you going to claim that 1/6th of an XL pizza could be larger than a 1/4 of a personal pan pizza. RIDICULOUS!

wow, some conservatives still believe the US is on the right side of the laffer curve?

Please explain the difference between taxes and my condo fees. Is my condo association 'stealing' my money when they make me pay $400/month to live here? After all it's zomgmymoney, right?

Also, please explain how, if they decide to cut my condo fees, this will affect the services the condos are provided. Will we have to fund the cuts with, say, less gardening services, or maintenance?

So now, if they give us the fee reduction, but don't cut the services at the same time, wouldn't you call that an 'unfunded' cut to the condo fees?

But taxes are that their lowest point relative to GDP in history, so by your logic the govt coffers must just be overflowing, right?

But they're not. How do you explain that?

Can you enlighten me on why the GOP tried to block the payroll tax holiday twice in two years then?

The Laffer curve is like the best test ever created for whether someone has the first clue about economics or not. Cos 99% of the time the ones who dont love that thing without understanding it in the slightest including what its actual purpose is.

The next person (conservative or otherwise) who can tell me where we are on the LOLaffer curve will be the first.

1. When you bought the condo you agreed to the fees. You could have bought an apt or a house to avoid condo fees. It is much more difficult to find a job where you don't pay taxes.

Your 2nd paragraph is looking at things backwards. You are not funding the cut in condo fees with less services. You are funding those services w/ the fees.

The cut in condo fees will most likely lead to a need to cut some of the services provided my the condo association, which like the govt I am sure is very inefficient. Condo owners will most likely be able to figure out how to make up for those lost services in more efficient ways. The cut in condo fees will tend to raise the value of the condos as well.

2. Well not ever, but for a really long time. Are you suggesting we finally ask the lower and middle classes to start paying their fair share?

3. Weren't they both temporary?

My dead baby calf veal was delicious.

I do not have a dog in this fight but this analogy in this context does not make sense. You are not being forced to live in that condo, you accepted the terms freely. Taxes on property are being forced upon you.

This makes more sense as an analogy.

You then water it down with this.....

Number of ways the HOA or whoever can become more efficeint, thereby saving money for the residents.....example: an equally effective security firm out bid the current higher paid firm.



I really don't care either way, just wanted point out that your analogy is not effective in some cases.

We will never know where we are on the Laffer curve since there are way too many other variables. Not to mention those variables are constantly changing.

I fail to see you point here. Are you saying since we don't know where we are on it that we should ignore that it exists?

It kinda matters where you are on the curve if you're going to base policy on it.

Close. What I'm saying is that if we cannot even calculate where we are on it at any given point in time then it is a pretty useless tool in anything other than abstract discussions. Obviously nothing comes in when we're at 0% and when we're at 100% but everything in between is wide open to interpretation/propaganda.

Ok good, glad to see we at least partly agree. Tired of hearing people say that raising tax rates will automatically raise tax revenues.

I would agree it would be a useless tool if commonsense was far more common than it is today. However, I believe we will continue to have a need to explain such basic concepts to liberals through pictures and simplified ideas.

Not nearly as tired as I am of hearing idiots say things like, "Revenues ALWAYS INCREASE when we lower tax rates!"

I would settle with you just telling us where we are on the laffer curve right now.