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Originally Posted by dinopoker
A sick irony would be if some of these smaller NATO members suddenly started nUnclear programs as a way to guarantee their own security.
I'm also confused these other leaders just let Trump push them around like this. Like he's obviously bluffing, He can't unilaterally pull the U.S. Out of nato. Why doesn't anyone bother to Point that out?
Does article 5 ( attack against one ally is considered an attack against all of them) work if trump unilaterally declares he wont follow it?
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Originally Posted by Habsfan09
As an European you get to the point where you just wish Trump would be gone and Pence only ****s up the USA and leaves the EU alone.
I think Germany could even consider pulling out of NATO. The USA already moved troops to Poland so they can move the the remaining troops stationed in Germany as well. We would still be protected from Russia thanks to Poland but dont have to take up with this bs by Trump anymore. I mean my conscience is already troubled knowing that the drone strikes are overseen from an US base in Germany.
The irony is that trump is right and Europe should start taking responsibility for it's own defense. Nato (at least such a usa dominated one) is not the future because the USA is not a country we want to be so close to, or so reliant on. It's going to take a very long time but trump may have hastened the end of nato in it's present form.