above chart shows decreasing difference in voting percentages against other age groups

indicating more millennials are voting now as a ratio to total voters than previous youngster groups

also lol @ the ultralibs itt equating social ostracization with violence/suppression

when all you are is a nail, everything looks like a hammer

I've always had the notion that the younger generation has always been mostly liberal, and many just turn Republican in older age when they become filled with remorse, hate, anger, and are just generally miserable.

Is this inaccurate?

Conservatives have the backwards notion that kindness is childish


I think the gradual leftward progress of the overton window shows that age doesn't make people more Conservative, just that people get used to certain ideas and become less open to newer ones as they age (small "c" conservative)

sylar - young people are disconnected, or maybe better-said "unconnected"

so local politics has less perceived relevance for them


I speculate that social media is changing this

Btw this rap discussion inspired me to dig out my late 60s/early 70s soul dream mix. Greatest (if not deepest) genre ever. You haven't lived until you've seen me jump around the living room to Rubberband Man. Currently chilling to Papa Was a Rolling Stone.

Peak music that will ever be created by humanity imo. Can't imagine anything could ever supersede it.

jesus christ this is incredible. you really dont see your contradiction?

so we should engage with nazis and supremacists and out-debate them with logic and reason. but not with fly. he should be ignored and ostracized.

hahahaha. clovis is reporting posts and asking for action against fly while defending nazi free speech. just amazing.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...72522983874561
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...97009133465600

but the right would try to equate blm with isis and limit the freedoms of blm and others that they view as subversive or as their own personal enemies regardless.

like, if we sit around and actively promote allowing nazis to march and supremacists to hold rallies and speeches, that is not gonna do a single thing to hurt the arguments, ideas, and actions of ppl like david clark in that twitter.

and actually, promoting or even allowing those ideas a platform and the opportunity to propagate will do a ton to also promote the ideas that david clarke is espousing in that twitter, and it will make it much more likely that such ideas are acted on and the rights and humanity of groups that are deemed enemies of the nazis and the administration is drastically lessened.

nope. we allow nazis and supremacists to spew their bile about how blm is a terrorist organization and blacks are dangerous predators and the next thing you know it is illegal for blm to protest and blacks are victimized by police and the courts.

when the president is going around saying that some ppl affilited or even marching with nazis and supremacists are in fact good people, then it would be a terrible idea to go and actively legitimize their platform.

I think there's a difference between speech representing a political philosophy, albeit a repulsive one, and speech that advocates a specific violent action. In other words, I think its okay to say that you hope our government finds ISIS soldiers in the US and kills them vs. speech that creates your own specific plans to knock off a group of folks at a mosque.

This discussion also leaves out what the punishment is for people who would violate the proposed anti-nazi speech laws. They go to jail for how long? A year? Then when they come out and they're still nazis do they go back in for another year? For life?

I support total eradication of all free speech rights for anybody who drags this goddamn Clovis derail into another day.

dang no Dumpty response to M&M... even he knows not to go there vs the goat battler haha

If he cannot engage productively, he should ignore - up to the point of decrying violation of legitimate rules.

I think the Ignore approach is bad because it precludes both, but it is better than rolling around in the **** alongside 'em.

so much this.

also i want to stab my eyes out whenever i read a post from chez, with his overly tedious writing style that is rife with grammatical/structural errors. at least half the time i can hardly even tell what he's trying to say anymore. still havent seen him actually cop to any specific mistakes or shortcomings in the way he moderated p7 tho.

re: bolded- not even close, and to the rest of that whiny screed.....nope.

36 chambers and any free mixtape big KRIT has ever done are better than all of the previously listed albums.

Trump tweeting at 4am is more interesting to me than the substance of those tweets. Seems he is sleeping less and less which is certainly not a good thing.

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^pretty much this

Poor or eratric sleep is hard on the heart. Add in the stress, and hopefully he has a massive coronary soon and drops dead.

What these people mean by "engage productively" is "agree with me".

I've contributed more actual substance to this discussion of free speech and how it ties in with both the larger context of Trump and the immediate context of this forum than any of these Free Speech Discourse Heroes, who basically just rewrite the same ****ing zero-knowledge-necessary take about Engagement With Ideas(no specific ideas ever identified) over and over again.

werewolf and Clovis are heartbroken over seeing asterisks in my posts because they know those are naughty words, oh my, heavens to betsy.

I'm pretty peeved myself over how it's incredibly obvious from their posts that they have no ****ing idea what they are talking about, they aren't aware of the context of any specifics, and generally are just pointlessly "virtue signalling" with no actual thought put into the debate.

conspiring to commit murder is against the law. it's the idea, not the action, which is illegal.

Trump will ALWAYS shoot the hostage.

curtis mayfield ftw

Yeah, and that hostage is just a HC law he doesn't understand. Remember the story posted yesterday about Don Jr. in the divorce.