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loved how much talk there was about trumps tax returns and then when they found out he payed more than clinton + sanders combined plus he payed more than other famous businessmen, people got stunningly quiet and it just all went away

It was two pages of on me tax return

If his returns got released in total it would be devastating to him.

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03-30-2017 , 09:21 AM

#22903

microbet

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Quote:

Originally Posted by raradevils

How does that protect animals in other countries?

It actually does because animals don't recognize borders especially in the ocean, but I don't understand the thinking behind the question. Did Trump protect animals in other countries? Someone else? Did I claim Obama protected animals in other countries?

Are you trying to get me with the Ross Sea Preserve in the Antarctic? I suppose you got me, though I could argue that it doesn't count because it's explicitly temporary. (It's a couple percent bigger than the Papahanawhatever and Obama protected another area almost as big.)

03-30-2017 , 09:22 AM

#22904

master3004

Revisionist Historian

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Always good to see numb-nuts going hard against his own team.

03-30-2017 , 09:23 AM

#22905

tomdemaine

Just tries harder

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Quote:

Originally Posted by poconoder

all those people who forced stores to pull Ivanka's clothing line now know, if you close one door a window into the White House will open.

Man are republicans responsible for any single thing that they choose to do? ****ing nefarious liberals forcing them to do all sorts of things. Weird that we have the power to make them do crappy things but not to make them into remotely decent people despite all our efforts.

03-30-2017 , 09:26 AM

#22906

microbet

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I think it's about even money that Trump knows what The Freedom Caucus is.

03-30-2017 , 09:46 AM

#22907

TheHip41

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Originally Posted by microbet

I think it's about even money that Trump knows what The Freedom Caucus is.

He probably knows now.

5 weeks ago, 0% chance

03-30-2017 , 09:52 AM

#22908

Onlydo2days

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Trump going at HFC on twitter pretty hard

Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump
The Freedom Caucus will hurt the entire Republican agenda if they don't get on the team, & fast. We must fight them, & Dems, in 2018!
9:07 AM - 30 Mar 2017

welcome to washington donny

03-30-2017 , 09:57 AM

#22909

Bored5000

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheHip41

It was two pages of on me tax return

If his returns got released in total it would be devastating to him.

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With the way Rachel Maddow went all Al Capone's vault over those two pages of tax returns, I am not sure she could have handled much more than a single year's tax return.

03-30-2017 , 10:21 AM

#22910

Huehuecoyotl

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Mulvaney got even rougher with the caucus after leadership axed the vote. On NBC’s Meet The Press Sunday, Chuck Todd grilled the budget chief about why he had been unable to get Freedom Caucusers to “yes.” Mulvaney rambled on about how Washington is more “broken” and “rotten” than even he had imagined. “I know the Freedom Caucus. I helped found it. I never thought it would come to this,” he lamented. He characterized the AHCA’s demise as another sad case of “the powers that be in Washington” crushing action-oriented reformers. Rejecting Todd’s suggestion that the bill was fatally flawed, Mulvaney trashed opponents’ motives. “They're still paying attention to special interests, they're still paying attention to getting reelected, as opposed to doing the right thing.”

Say this for the budget chief: It took impressive shamelessness to throw this kind of shade at former colleagues, seeing as how Mulvaney spent his own House career perfecting exactly the sort of intransigence, disruption, and ideological piety he’s now grumping about. When it came to giving the finger to legislative pragmatism, compromise, and “good enough,” no one beat Congressman Mulvaney.

And now? After less than two months in the executive branch, Mulvaney appears to have had an epiphany about the art of the possible, the limits of ideological purity, and the vast difference between governing and blowing stuff up. At the very least, he’s learned how it feels to carry someone else’s water. For the past couple of weeks, in fact, the one-time bomb-throwing zealot has sounded suspiciously like one of those deal-cutting RINO squishes he used to lived to torment. (Neither he nor members of the Freedom Caucus wished to comment.)

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Mnuchin firmly opposes dorking around with the nation’s fiscal obligations. As he noted at an event hosted by Axios last week, “We’ve spent the money, so the concept of the debt limit is somewhat of a ridiculous concept.” Urging Congress to tackle the issue before summer break, he said, “I think everybody understands, whether you’re a Republican or a Democrat, we need to raise the debt limit, and that’s something we’re going to do. And that the full faith and credit of the United State is the most important thing.”

Well, not everybody understands that. In 2010, Mulvaney dismissed the very notion that failing to raise the debt ceiling was a bad thing: “I have yet to meet someone who can articulate the negative consequences.” And many of his Freedom Caucus brethren are expected to try to use the debt limit as a bargaining chip again.

This could soon present Mulvaney with the ultimate political irony. In the past, Trump has tweet-slammed Congress for raising the debt ceiling. But that was pre-White House, when could twiddle his thumbs with impunity. Now, if his party tanks America’s credit rating and/or shuts down the government, Trump will share the blame. As such, come Fall, there is an excellent chance that the president will send Mulvaney, hat in hand, to ask Congress to raise the ceiling.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...m_source=atltw

03-30-2017 , 10:33 AM

#22911

champstark

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I'm super curious to see how much of a spine the HFC has. Do they just fold or do they insist on a shutdown?

03-30-2017 , 10:33 AM

#22912

tomdemaine

Just tries harder

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If the "freedom" caucus people actually stick to their moronic guns with trump in charge they will gain a modicum of respect from me. Being consistently and honestly dumb is somehow less obnoxious than being cynically dumb.

03-30-2017 , 10:42 AM

#22913

TheHip41

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We are 100% going to have a government shut down.

No way these clowns get a budget passed.

03-30-2017 , 10:53 AM

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Kansas legislature finally passes Medicaid expansion. Governor Sam Brownback just vetoed it:

https://twitter.com/govsambrownback/...55477327839234

03-30-2017 , 10:55 AM

#22915

dinopoker

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Originally Posted by the pleasure

Do you really think there isn't something in Trump's recent tax returns that he's hiding? If not I have a subscription to Trump University that I'll sell you, cheap too.

03-30-2017 , 11:08 AM

#22916

TheHip41

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Originally Posted by einbert

Kansas legislature finally passes Medicaid expansion. Governor Sam Brownback just vetoed it:

https://twitter.com/govsambrownback/...55477327839234

It always goes back to Jesus and abortion

Just stfu already

03-30-2017 , 11:15 AM

#22917

MrWookie

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Fo shizzle. Everyone knows Jesus wouldn't provide free health care, so why would Kansas?

03-30-2017 , 11:20 AM

#22918

tomdemaine

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MrWookie

Fo shizzle. Everyone knows Jesus wouldn't provide free health care, so why would Kansas?

You should've seen the size of the bill those lepers received. I think Lazarus had to file bankruptcy after his invoice came through.

03-30-2017 , 11:22 AM

#22919

Namath12

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haven't had a hearty lolkansas in like four days

lolkansas

03-30-2017 , 11:24 AM

#22920

zikzak

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The biggest failing of Christianity has been its inability to make people follow the teachings of Christ.

03-30-2017 , 11:27 AM

#22921

tomdemaine

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Failing? More like feature.

03-30-2017 , 11:30 AM

#22922

Namath12

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lol free press gg

03-30-2017 , 11:30 AM

#22923

einbert

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Painful reality: The opioid crisis in Kansas
http://www.wibw.com/content/news/Pai...401785626.html

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The Heroin Connection
By the numbers
In Kansas, drug poisoning deaths increased 121.6 percent since 2000, according to the Kansas Dept. of Health and Environment's latest vital statistics report. Health officials attribute the increase largely to the increased use of opioid medications, which are drugs like Oxycontin, Percocet and Vicodin.

In 2015, KDHE figures show more people died from poisoning than motor vehicle wrecks or firearms (379 poisoning deaths, 376 motor vehicle wreck deaths, 330 firearms deaths). The figures include deaths from suicide and homicide. In young people specificically, the Trust for America's Health notes the Kansas overdose rate for people ages 12 to 25 quadrupled from 1999 to 2013. Only Wyoming saw a bigger jump. However, their study does note Kansas still has the 14th lowest overall rate of youth overdose.

Nationwide in 2014, the Centers for Disease Control reports the U.S. saw more than 270,000 deaths involving prescription opioid medications or heroin - that's one death every 20 minutes.

"The big trick here that's different is that a lot of the drugs they abuse are legal and you can get them through legal channels - and it doesn't take a lot of manipulation to get them," Dr. Voth said.

[...]

Another reason the prescription drug epidemic is so concerning is because it's often a pathway to abuse of heroin, a synthetic, highly-addictive opiod.

The U.S. Attorney's Office estimates nearly 80 percent of new heroin users started by abusing prescription opioids. They turn to heroin because it can be more accessible and less costly once their sources for prescription drugs run dry.

While Kansas isn't seeing the huge heroin problem other parts of the country are, it is showing up. The Kansas Bureau of Investigation says, nationally, imports of heroin have increased sevenfold since 2008. In Kansas, the KBI saw a 36 percent increase in heroin in 2015 and is on track for an 87 percent increase for 2016.

KBI Communications director Melissa Underwood said heroin is considered the largest opioid concern for the state, but they're also wary of other synthetics. One called U-47700, considered eight times more powerful than morphine, is suspected in deaths in at least four counties this year. Underwood could not provide further details because the cases remain under investigation, but she said the KBI and Board of Pharmacy will lobby state lawmakers this year to add them to the state's list of scheduled drugs. The federal government recently approved emergency scheduling for the substances.