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Impressive lack of panic about voter fraud investigation. Trump and his fake experts will "find " those millions of illegal votes, and he will use these "findings" to justify an aggressive disenfranchisement effort. Or is everyone already resigned to this fate?

01-25-2017 , 07:08 PM

#1327

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Us Californians need to do our voting by mail and then go to red or purple states for GOTV in 2018.

01-25-2017 , 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Mayo

I don't know much about Nazis, so I've been reading "The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich." Just yesterday, I was incredulously shaking my head at their idea that the only scientific truth was "German Chemistry" and "German Physics," and all the professors and scientists were forced to make sure their scientific results conformed to the "correct" political viewpoint. Preposterous!

Then today I saw this:

He just need his own Horst Wessel Lied song to march to.

01-25-2017 , 07:10 PM

#1329

champstark

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Originally Posted by FlyWf

But miajag is right, the odds of America having a coup or a civil war or widespread civil unrest all got a lot higher this week.

This was the moment of truth for all the "take Trump seriously, not literally" and "he just wants to be a Good President with a Good Legacy" and "a pivot is coming" morons. Turns out Trump is what we thought he was, an authoritarian.

Yeah I hope all the idiots who voted for a marginal tax cut and said Trump wouldn't do anything else bad are happy they ended civilization.

01-25-2017 , 07:16 PM

#1330

ScreaminAsian

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Washington DC | January 20, 2017

“I hope people who oppose him are surprised by how good things wind up going. If nothing else I think there’s a misconception that we know he’s evil and that’s why we voted for him. I hope that the good that I see in him, and the good that many millions of others saw in him comes to fruition. And I hope jobs come back to the country. I hope wealth comes back in. I hope people’s lives as a whole improve.”

Logan Reynolds from Marietta, OH prays during Donald J. Trump’s inauguration.

01-25-2017 , 07:20 PM

#1331

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oh noes won't someone please think of the illegal immigrants!!!

01-25-2017 , 07:30 PM

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This is the craziest story I've heard

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Mr. Trump kicked off the meeting, participants said, by retelling his*debunked claim*that he would have won the popular vote if not for the three million to five million ballots cast by “illegals.” He followed it up with a Twitter post early Wednesday*calling for a major investigation*into voter fraud.

When one of the Democrats protested, Mr. Trump said he was told a story by “the very famous golfer, Bernhard Langer,” whom he described as a friend, according to three staff members who were in the room for the meeting.

In the emerging Trump era, the story was a memorable example, for the legislators and the country, of how an off-the-cuff yarn — unverifiable and of confusing origin — became a prime policy mover for a president whose fact-gathering owes more to the oral tradition than the written word.

The three witnesses recall the story this way: Mr. Langer, a 59-year-old native of Bavaria, Germany — a winner of the Masters twice and of more than 100 events on major professional golf tours around the world — was standing in line at a polling place near his home in Florida on Election Day, the president explained, when an official informed Mr. Langer he would not be able to vote.

Ahead of and behind Mr. Langer were voters who did not look as if they should be allowed to vote, Mr. Trump said, according to the staff members — but they were nonetheless permitted to cast provisional ballots. The president threw out the names of Latin American countries that the voters might have come from.

Mr. Langer, whom he described as a supporter, left feeling frustrated, he said.

The anecdote, the aides said, was greeted with silence, and Mr. Trump was prodded to change the subject by Reince Priebus, the White House chief of staff, and Senator John Cornyn, Republican of Texas.

He's literally your racist uncle.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/01/2...&_r=1&referer=

01-25-2017 , 07:35 PM

#1333

spidercrab

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That story is insane. I have a feeling Reince could sign a $25 million book deal when he leaves the WH.

01-25-2017 , 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Bullycider

Try explaining how we vote in the US to a foreigner sometime. "so you walk in, don't show them any ID, just them your name and sign your name right next to the signature they have on file, and as long if it matches up more or less you get to vote???" They never believe you.

Actually my reply is "Yeah same in Australia, minus the having to sign bit".

01-25-2017 , 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by FlyWf

We need to obstruct what we can and then win in 2018. Seriously if 2018 isn't a Democratic wave election, I mean like flipping multiple state legislatures, 2020 is very likely going to be a Trump re-election.

dude its over.

first nc. now virginia. virginia will never go dem again. all of the repub controlled swing states are gonna follow virginia's lead and diminish the value of city votes while disproportionally weighting red suburbs and rural counties. dems will never win those states again in a pres and most have already destroyed any dem chance of winning congress seats.

and this voter investigation will destroy millions of dems ability to vote too.

it is so over and there is really no reason to even fight it at this point.

01-25-2017 , 07:47 PM

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Huehue's quote left off before the part where it became clear that the golfer was not eligible to vote.

01-25-2017 , 07:49 PM

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3-5 million illegal votes and not one of them went to Trump.

01-25-2017 , 07:53 PM

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jfc

01-25-2017 , 07:58 PM

#1339

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Originally Posted by jalfrezi

If you want a similar life without the Trumpardation Canada's probably the obvious choice, then anywhere in Western Europe that you can get by linguistically. If you want to stay on the just-sane side of very right wing, then Australia.

Its weird, I dont think of Australia as right wing, but I would have trouble naming an Anglosphere or even Western country that is further right other than the US. There's Hong Kong and Singapore if they count. Switzerland. Starting to draw a blank now.

01-25-2017 , 07:59 PM

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Grunch. Top story on the WaPo:

The true, correct story of what happened at Donald Trump’s inauguration

01-25-2017 , 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Max Cut

jfc

Yeah, he's insane. It's a longshot that he and freedom in America both make it through the next four years. One or the other of them has to go.

01-25-2017 , 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl

This is the craziest story I've heard

He's literally your racist uncle.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/01/2...&_r=1&referer=

01-25-2017 , 08:11 PM

#1343

FlyWf

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Originally Posted by Victor

You are probably right, but I think we owe it to the constitution to give it a shot.

But yeah, 2020 is going to be a ****ing disaster. Trump will announce he won 539 electorate votes, it is fake news to say otherwise.

01-25-2017 , 08:11 PM

#1344

ScreaminAsian

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Quote:

Originally Posted by simplicitus

Grunch. Top story on the WaPo:

The true, correct story of what happened at Donald Trump’s inauguration

washington post surpasses onion. hilarious

01-25-2017 , 08:15 PM

#1345

FlyWf

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Seriously Trump heard a story that involves a fraudulent vote being stopped before it was cast but apparently the presence of Latinos in South Florida means they were illegal? That's the information the most powerful man in the world uses to advance his case?

We're ****ed. We're well and truly ****ed.

Beyond anything else, beyond the horrifying white ethno-state, he's just dumb as **** and easily convinced, right? We're going to give Fort Knox to a Nigerian prince.

01-25-2017 , 08:20 PM

#1346

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There's probably no hope from elections. Trump needs to be resisted until he cracks and hope for removal.

01-25-2017 , 08:20 PM

#1347

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I am seriously getting so angry about Trump. I was better off being incredibly ignorant. I do know that next time I will vote (assuming voting is still a thing) and I feel awful that I didn't this time especially since that piece of trash won my state. **** Trump.

01-25-2017 , 08:22 PM

#1348

locknopair

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Originally Posted by suzzer99

Relevant.

in addition trump is also simultaneously creating an image for illegals (or immigrants in general) that plays directly to his base that he will be able to exploit in the future.