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Old Today, 03:45 PM   #53201
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Re: The Presidency of Donald J. Trump

only way trump resigns is if his "lawyers" (in quotes because they're pathetic hacks) advise him that he cant pardon himself and he gets a guarantee from pence

and even then it's still a yuge longshot
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An exercise, then I'll give Rex and others a break for 5-10 minutes. What are Trump's top priorities at the moment? Here are some, in no particular order:

Stay POTUS
Keep out of jail
Please Putin
Popularity/Base
Revenge against enemies
Trump $

There is only one agenda for Trump and that is to protect his ego and self-esteem, everything he says or thinks is centered on these priorities.
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Old Today, 03:47 PM   #53203
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Why was Bannon fired over Charlottesville? What did he have to do with that? Or was it simply someone had to take one for the team since Daddy Nazi was so inept about handling it?

Also, what's that devastating thing that's supposed to be released today?
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Old Today, 03:52 PM   #53204
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honestly ive been chuckling at the "art of the deal" writer guy predicting trump will resign this fall. i'd bet substantial money against that, dude is ****ing retarded
I agree it's a long shot but it's all about money for Trump. He'd step down in a heartbeat if he could profit off it. If his base continues to shrink, there's an inflection point where he's better off not being president.

Someone like Soros should offer Daddy Nazi $1 billion to have his own primetime TV show under the condition he quits. I bet he'd do it.
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Old Today, 03:53 PM   #53205
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Why was Bannon fired over Charlottesville? What did he have to do with that? Or was it simply someone had to take one for the team since Daddy Nazi was so inept about handling it?

Also, what's that devastating thing that's supposed to be released today?
bannon is the virtual head of the alt-right and and its causing negative press and distractions for daddy, stealing the spotlight and all that, therefore he has to go
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Old Today, 04:28 PM   #53206
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It's a longshot, but Trump is a professional quitter and I'm sure he could rationalize quitting. He'd really love to figure out a way for the Presidency to be no more meaningful that the TRUMP sign on one of the buildings that someone else owns. He just wants to be treated like a POTUS and that's something he'll never get from the majority of Americans.

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Old Today, 04:36 PM   #53207
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Why was Bannon fired over Charlottesville? What did he have to do with that? Or was it simply someone had to take one for the team since Daddy Nazi was so inept about handling it?
he's the most well known white nationalist in the administration and one of the people he radicalized ended up killing an innocent white woman in a terrorist attack so i imagine john kelly and mcmaster approached the president or bannon about his ****stirring a while ago and bannon probably said, "oh it's all innocent and in good fun" and the president probably interjected, "see! it's all innocent and in great fun, the best fun anyone can have and completely innocent.". but evidently the president listens to generals who are insistent to him, probably because his father didn't love him enough to raise him and he sent little donnie away to military boarding school at his most impressionable age. trump hasn't had any reason to be around military people since then, let alone the top military leaders in america so i imagine he's impressed by them on a deep psychological level
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Old Today, 04:39 PM   #53208
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only way trump resigns is if his "lawyers" (in quotes because they're pathetic hacks) advise him that he cant pardon himself and he gets a guarantee from pence

and even then it's still a yuge longshot
if dems take midterms it'll be a direct threat to impeachment. trump has settled out of court many times before, he's done a version of this before and knows to surrender when he's backed into a corner. impeachment + mueller digging into him for 2 full years should = house on fire for a rational actor.

is it even a question as to whether Pence will pull a Gerry Ford or does anyone itt think he might choose to not pardon and let the justice department settle it?
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I kinda feel like we're missing something here. How significant is this tweet and WH statement? Unified Combatant Command status??

Almost zero chance Trump had anything to do with this decision or benefits from it in any way. I doubt he even understands what it's about. It's just a reorganization that some general probably wanted. It's more likely the reasons for that are to more effectively defend the US vs cyber warfare than it is to allow Trump to sell us out more easily to Putin or whatever.
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Old Today, 05:05 PM   #53210
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I think decisions like this are more Trump's speed.


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Old Today, 05:22 PM   #53211
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It's a longshot, but Trump is a professional quitter and I'm sure he could rationalize quitting. He'd really love to figure out a way for the Presidency to be no more meaningful that the TRUMP sign on one of the buildings that someone else owns. He just wants to be treated like a POTUS and that's something he'll never get from the majority of Americans.
Admittedly a bit of speculation on my part but I agree. I think he just wanted the title and prestige, but not the actual job of being President. As time goes on he's going to increasingly come face to face with the reality that most people in the US think he sucks, I don't care what Fox or his inner circle try to feed him.

It's a tiny silver lining to see him trapped in the situation. He's accustomed to getting his way and removing threats to his ego, but the realities and demands of POTUS won't allow him those comforts. He may or may not quit, but I don't see an easy out for him that would allow him to do so with his head held high, no matter how he might spin it.
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Old Today, 05:25 PM   #53212
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He spelled "heil" wrong
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Old Today, 05:32 PM   #53215
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Wait, Trump is stupid?
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Old Today, 05:39 PM   #53216
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One thing that I love about Trump being on Twitter is you know it's 100% him. When it's someone else that's famous, half the time it's the assistant. Not Trump. You just know he's sitting on the ****ter while he's tweetin'.
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His twitter is a heap of smouldering medical waste.
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WTF why do I not remember all of this?

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Deutsche Bank Refinances Kushner Building Purchased From Putin Ally
Jared Kushner’s real estate company finalizes a $285 million loan with Deutsche Bank as part of a refinancing package for its property near Times Square. In total, the refinancing deal reportedly results in Kushner’s company receiving $74 million more than it had paid for the property in 2015, when Kushner had negotiated the purchase with Lev Leviev.

According to a 2007 New York Times report, Leviev — a Uzbek-born Israeli citizen who is one of the world’s wealthiest men — kept a framed photo of Vladimir Putin on his office shelf and described Putin as a “true friend,” who has helped him in his work with an influential Jewish organization in Russia.

At the time of the October 2016 refinancing with Kushner’s company, Deutsche Bank was negotiating to settle New York state regulators’ charges that it had aided a possible Russian money laundering scheme. Eventually, the state cases were settled in December and January.
http://billmoyers.com/story/trump-russia-timeline/ (I can't figure out how to link to an individual entry, so just Ctrl+F something unique from the quote)

3 takeaways.

1) That extra $74 million in a year sure looks rotten.
2) Same Deutsche Bank as Trump's unpaid loans.
3) The timing of the NY State settlement.

*) It was a PITA to add all of those 4 links to the quote. Is there a way to use WYSIWYG that I'm missing, or is it disabled? I'll be getting pretty much everything Russia from that link from now on, so shortcuts would be huge.
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Old Today, 06:10 PM   #53220
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Almost zero chance Trump had anything to do with this decision or benefits from it in any way. I doubt he even understands what it's about. It's just a reorganization that some general probably wanted. It's more likely the reasons for that are to more effectively defend the US vs cyber warfare than it is to allow Trump to sell us out more easily to Putin or whatever.
Why did he make such a rare tweet about it? He only does that when he wants us to know something's happening.
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Old Today, 06:12 PM   #53221
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I hate the Tweets. Athletes, actors, musicians (etc) who keep Twitter personal are great, and it sucks when they just use social media for nothing but promotion and re-tweeting causes. POTUS benefits from a little restraint in what you say casually. Sort of like the head of the Fed Reserve, prominent judges, etc.

That's before considering that his posts suck and come off like a plea for help to his sycophants. But even if they were good I think that kind of thing on Twitter is a bad idea, Trump or not. Once out of office though hey go nuts I'm all for it
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The teevees said Bannon left WITH a security clearance? That can't be normal. And even if it is, it can't be normal for someone like Mister Bannon.
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No doubt. In a hundred years when you look up self inflicted injury there will be a picture of Paul Ryan's **** eating grin.
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Old Today, 06:28 PM   #53224
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The teevees said Bannon left WITH a security clearance? That can't be normal. And even if it is, it can't be normal for someone like Mister Bannon.
it is normal. flynn kept his security clearance after he was fired by obama and it could have ****ed him. hopefully we'll see a reality winner situation and see bannon in cuffs within hours of some brightbart story publishing
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Wow, check out the big brains on GOP!
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