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02-03-2017 , 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Dominic
I just repeat "uh huh" over and over until he starts talking about the Federer/Badal match or something. I'm done trying to convince an 83 year old man that Bill O'Reilly is lying to him.
You shouldn't. I don't care. I shame my father. He threw away his critical thinking skills at some point. He knows I hold his views in contempt after telling him how I read mostly scientific articles on actual economics while he spews about Trump's protectionism.
02-03-2017 , 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by SuperUberBob
I'm more bothered by this:



I honestly have no idea what he's talking about.

I was skeptical of an invasion of Iran but now I don't know. Seems that he's hammering away on them for whatever reason.
The Republican party have always been a willing attack dog for the Saudis.
02-03-2017 , 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Autocratic
The "Soros pays everybody" thing cracks me up. I've met George Soros, and the idea that he's masterminding this sort of stuff is insane. He's just a super rich old dude who's liberal.
He paid you to say that, didn't he?
02-03-2017 , 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul D
You shouldn't. I don't care. I shame my father. He threw away his critical thinking skills at some point. He knows I hold his views in contempt after telling him how I read mostly scientific articles on actual economics while he spews about Trump's protectionism.
LOL I did that for all of my adult life. It's different now that he's in his 80s and starting to slide, both mentally and physically. Why do I want to upset him now? He's not changing his views now.
02-03-2017 , 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by champstark
He paid you to say that, didn't he?
DEFINITELY NOT NO
02-03-2017 , 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Dominic
LOL I did that for all of my adult life. It's different now that he's in his 80s and starting to slide, both mentally and physically. Why do I want to upset him now? He's not changing his views now.
You have to treat you own dad with respect of course, but can you at least talk through what it would mean and that some parts of the media make mistakes? Does he think the same about the women's protest thing around the country (with millions there)? How much would you have to pay (baring in mind time + travel) ... $100? Millions x $100 is a lot. And how many would you have to ask to get that many....and surely 10% or so would blow the scam, meaning loads and loads of evidence.
02-03-2017 , 07:08 PM
My dad has visited America a fair few times (mostly Florida but not only there). He's semi retired now and pretty well off so goes on loads of holidays. He's closed the door on the USA though as he can't face the thought that ~ 50% of the people there are Trump voters.

He has told me stories over the last few years where he'll be on a cruise ship (he spends a lot on holidays, these are expensive trips) and gets talking to American people....all very friendly, well off (by the fact that they are there), and all is going well then they turn to him and say something like "You know that Obama is a Muslim don't you?". He swears that this has happened so often he specifically looks for trips where there are likely to be few Americans. I'd always laughed before, but it does show how deep the support for someone like Trump is.
02-03-2017 , 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Dominic
On the phone with my Dad...he asks me if I knew all of the protesters at the airports were paid and organized by Soros...and then went off on all of Academia because one professor somewhere said the Green Bay Packers are more patriotic than Tom Brady because of His support for Trump.

He then tells me a heart warming story about Robert Kraff owing Trum his friendship because Trump was nice to Kraft after Kraft's wife died. Did you know that Kraft went to Donald's wedding, too? (I asked which one but he didn't hear me)

I'm to the point where I don't want to know my Dad.
Dude we're in the same boat. I basically told my mom that today and she kind of goes hand in hand with him and she broke down crying uncontrollably. But they are both looney tune.
02-03-2017 , 07:09 PM
83yo = let him be
02-03-2017 , 07:15 PM
02-03-2017 , 07:17 PM
Trump loves the unemployment numbers now that he repeatedly called fiction. What a total and complete ****ing piece of human filth.
02-03-2017 , 07:19 PM
HE DOESN'T EVEN KNOW HOW TO USE QUOTATION MARKS
02-03-2017 , 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Dominic
On the phone with my Dad...he asks me if I knew all of the protesters at the airports were paid and organized by Soros...and then went off on all of Academia because one professor somewhere said the Green Bay Packers are more patriotic than Tom Brady because of His support for Trump.

He then tells me a heart warming story about Robert Kraff owing Trum his friendship because Trump was nice to Kraft after Kraft's wife died. Did you know that Kraft went to Donald's wedding, too? (I asked which one but he didn't hear me)

I'm to the point where I don't want to know my Dad.
Take a good look at him Mingooch because that's what you are going to be like in 30 years :-)

Don't be too hard on yourself when you get older.....
02-03-2017 , 07:22 PM
What ticks me off about this whole thing is not the impending thermonuclear armaggedon but that there is so much going on that my monthly 5 free articles at WaPo or the NYT or w/e runs out on day 2 and I have to pony up a couple of bucks.
02-03-2017 , 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Morphismus
02-03-2017 , 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by champstark
How many terrorist attacks on the United States in the past 30 years were actually sponsored by Iran?
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Originally Posted by raradevils
not my words:

"State Department report finds Iran is top state sponsor of terror"

http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/02/politi...ort-terrorism/

"On Iran, the report said that country "remained the foremost state sponsor of terrorism in 2015, providing a range of support, including financial, training, and equipment, to groups around the world.""
I've wondered before about this claim that Iran is one of the biggest state sponsors of terrorism. It's a claim I've seen made frequently before, invariably, as here, without any evidence attached. I assume, like microbet said, that they're talking about Hezbollah and Hamas. The vast majority of what most Westerners would think about as "terrorism", i.e. attacks in Western countries, is carried out by Sunnis. Iran is Shia.

The lumping together of completely different phenomena as "terrorism" precludes discussion of which of these phenomena the US should care about.

Edit: I would also not be surprised if a blind eye is turned to the terrorism-sponsoring activities of US allies like the Saudis. IOW, this "biggest state sponsor of terrorism" is pretty transparently related to US strategic aims in the Middle East as opposed to what most people would think of as terrorism.

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Originally Posted by jayhawks
Do you think Israel and Iran can both be our allies at the same time?
Israel and Saudi Arabia are both your allies at the same time.
02-03-2017 , 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Hamish McBagpipe
What ticks me off about this whole thing is not the impending thermonuclear armaggedon but that there is so much going on that my monthly 5 free articles at WaPo or the NYT or w/e runs out on day 2 and I have to pony up a couple of bucks.
Geeze, tough brake man. What a ****ter of a week.
02-03-2017 , 07:27 PM
Looks like President Human Filth might lose his idiotic wall. Maybe there is a functioning brain cell among the republicans.
02-03-2017 , 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by DTD
You have to treat you own dad with respect of course, but can you at least talk through what it would mean and that some parts of the media make mistakes? Does he think the same about the women's protest thing around the country (with millions there)? How much would you have to pay (baring in mind time + travel) ... $100? Millions x $100 is a lot. And how many would you have to ask to get that many....and surely 10% or so would blow the scam, meaning loads and loads of evidence.
I'm 53. I've tried my whole life to present my father with facts and reasoned arguments. It does not help. He believes what he believes.
02-03-2017 , 07:28 PM
Genuinely curious what is going on in Obama's head atm.

Is he just full on WAAF? Or does his experience in the WH mean he knows Trumpism is unsustainable?

Seems pretty obv Trump *hates* Obama with a passion and one of the only things he actually cares about policy wise is destroying everything 44 did. I wonder how much BHO cares now that he is a private citizen.

I def think he cares about the country and personally I admire him very much. I also wonder, given his academic background and what we've witnessed over his presidency/now, how much of him just wants to say "**** off, America."

Got pretty used to his reassurance over the last few years. He will be missed.

History (assuming it comes) will not view this period of USA very kindly. Willfully going from peace and prosperity under Obama to ????? under DJT is such an aggressive act of self-sabotage it's actually quite difficult to articulate.

Last edited by Paul McSwizzle; 02-03-2017 at 07:34 PM.
02-03-2017 , 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by DTD
My dad has visited America a fair few times (mostly Florida but not only there). He's semi retired now and pretty well off so goes on loads of holidays. He's closed the door on the USA though as he can't face the thought that ~ 50% of the people there are Trump voters.

He has told me stories over the last few years where he'll be on a cruise ship (he spends a lot on holidays, these are expensive trips) and gets talking to American people....all very friendly, well off (by the fact that they are there), and all is going well then they turn to him and say something like "You know that Obama is a Muslim don't you?". He swears that this has happened so often he specifically looks for trips where there are likely to be few Americans. I'd always laughed before, but it does show how deep the support for someone like Trump is.

As a Las Vegas resident, I'm becoming worried that Trump is going to hurt America's tourist industry. What percentage of international travelers that would normally come to the country deciding to go somewhere else would have a noticeable effect? I'm guessing many of the small towns in the Southwest probably depend on Europeans that like to explore the desert landscape.
02-03-2017 , 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by np1235711
Take a good look at him Mingooch because that's what you are going to be like in 30 years :-)

Don't be too hard on yourself when you get older.....
you have NO idea who you are talking to.
02-03-2017 , 07:33 PM
In today's edition of "Republicans are the party of strong local government": Texas governor getting into showdown with Austin sheriff, withholding funds and threatening to oust her over sanctuary policy
02-03-2017 , 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul McSwizzle
peace and prosperity under Obama
I mean, That Guy alert, but there wasn't a whole lot of peace under Obama. Relative domestic tranquility, sure. Inexpressibly preferable to Trump, ldo.

No idea what's going through his mind right now. I imagine he's somewhat divided. Relatively secure about his place in history, if that matters to him (it probably does). Probably pretty shook regarding the US' short-term prospects, probably fairly philosophical about the long-term.
02-03-2017 , 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Morphismus
This *******s inability to use ****ing quotation marks might be the worst thing about him

      
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