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01-29-2017 , 04:04 PM

#2701

Noze

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How is Tillerson not in there explaining how god awful of an idea this is?

01-29-2017 , 04:06 PM

#2702

13ball

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Noze

How is Tillerson not in there explaining how god awful of an idea this is?

Busy with Russian hookers.

01-29-2017 , 04:08 PM

#2703

dopebeats

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Noze

How is Tillerson not in there explaining how god awful of an idea this is?

Because he is there to insure that Russia's sanctions get lifted. Point, blank, period. As soon as Russia gets their sanctions lifted, that whole administration gets all the money.

01-29-2017 , 04:09 PM

#2704

awval999

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Obama is saving his "one time".

If you believe Trump is an existential threat, he just can't blow his one time on this right here 8 days after inauguration. He just can't.

01-29-2017 , 04:09 PM

#2705

dlk9s

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Noze

How is Tillerson not in there explaining how god awful of an idea this is?

Trump's nominees were selected for a reason. That reason is not that they disagree with any of this.

01-29-2017 , 04:15 PM

#2706

FlyWf

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01-29-2017 , 04:21 PM

#2707

seattlelou

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Obama should let the current elected Democratic leaders find their voice. I think they have done a decent job so far.

01-29-2017 , 04:21 PM

#2708

Clovis8

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Originally Posted by awval999

Obama is saving his "one time".

If you believe Trump is an existential threat, he just can't blow his one time on this right here 8 days after inauguration. He just can't.

Not that your point has any merit. Nothing you ever say does, but if he had a one time maybe he will save it for when interment camps start because we know with 100% certainty that you will be cheering it on as long as those locked up are brown.

01-29-2017 , 04:22 PM

#2709

Clovis8

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Originally Posted by seattlelou

Obama should let the current elected Democratic leaders find their voice. I think they have done a decent job so far.

He can't say anything. There can only be one president at a time.

01-29-2017 , 04:24 PM

#2710

Paul D

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Quote:

Originally Posted by seattlelou

Obama should let the current elected Democratic leaders find their voice. I think they have done a decent job so far.

He can go on 60 minutes and blast the Twitter glowboy and not stop that process.

01-29-2017 , 04:27 PM

#2711

stinkubus

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Originally Posted by FlyWf

The big flaw in the Constitution has always been the executive enforcing judicial orders, so if the courts tell the executive to stop doing something there's nobody above them if they just ignore that order.

So here we go. We're about to find out how bad it'll get.

It would be on congress to impeach and convict.

01-29-2017 , 04:28 PM

#2712

markksman

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Originally Posted by bbfg

I tried doing some research and it's just a random PAC Trump has no control over. I find it weird that that this is legal but I guess the answer is MERICA

Well another thing lost in all this is Trump filed for reelection in 2020 on his Inauguration Day. Nobody ever does this before mid-terms. Obama filed in April 2011 for the 2012 election.

The benefit for trump is he is labeled as a candidate and campaigning which limits what non-profits and charities can say about him. This was clearly a move to stifle funded dissent of his presidency.

01-29-2017 , 04:30 PM

#2713

eurodp

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Quote:

Originally Posted by seattlelou

Obama should let the current elected Democratic leaders find their voice. I think they have done a decent job so far.

I think people need to stop thinking that some savior is going to come in and say a few smart and potent things and that just solves all of this. We all need to fight this ****!

01-29-2017 , 04:32 PM

#2714

dopebeats

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Quote:

Originally Posted by eurodp

I think people need to stop thinking that some savior is going to come in and say a few smart and potent things and that just solves all of this. We all need to fight this ****!

I think the reason that alot of people are quiet right now is that they are working on getting this dude.

https://www.theguardian.com/technolo...nkedin-dropbox

Some hacker that the US and Russia has extradition request on. Yea, we need to get that dude.

01-29-2017 , 04:35 PM

#2715

jalfrezi

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Originally Posted by stinkubus

It would be on congress to impeach and convict.

Congress impeaches him, Trump refuses to go and calls on the military to be loyal to him. What happens next?

01-29-2017 , 04:37 PM

#2716

markksman

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Oh trump is hosting first whitehouse movie screening everything is cool.8

01-29-2017 , 04:43 PM

#2717

awval999

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jalfrezi

Congress impeaches him, Trump refuses to go and calls on the military to be loyal to him. What happens next?

The military swears to uphold the Constitution.

Then to obey the President.

If Trump is convicted by the Senate he will no longer be President.

If he refused to leave the White House he would be arrested. Shots may or not be fired. He would still be arrested though.

01-29-2017 , 04:43 PM

#2718

BABARtheELEPHANT

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What is anyone best guess at what movie he is watching?

01-29-2017 , 04:43 PM

#2719

BABARtheELEPHANT

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I'll go first, Armageddon. Rooting for earth to explode ofc.

01-29-2017 , 04:43 PM

#2720

microbet

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jbrochu

Honestly think he needs to stay out of it or wayyyy in the background. The optics are terrible if Obama is involved in it in my opinion.

Probably true, and like i said: we got this.

I hope.

Regarding that, I know I should be on my way to LAX already. I'm waiting for my daughter to get dressed.

01-29-2017 , 04:44 PM

#2721

Nicholasp27

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Lego Batman

01-29-2017 , 04:45 PM

#2722

JacktheDumb

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Noze

How is Tillerson not in there explaining how god awful of an idea this is?

You mean the guy whose hole senior staff got kicked out one day before the ban?

01-29-2017 , 04:48 PM

#2723

stinkubus

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jalfrezi

Congress impeaches him, Trump refuses to go and calls on the military to be loyal to him. What happens next?

Then I would commence operation "**** My Pants", and begin regretting my life long aversion to guns.

01-29-2017 , 04:49 PM

#2724

JPantz

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Hard to defeat ISIS if soldiers aren't allowed in the country they are trying to defeat them in. Then again, it gives us reason to invade Iraq (and take the oil) rather than just partner with Iraq.