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03-27-2017 , 01:23 AM
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Originally Posted by wheatrich
first I saw was UK, but didn't find any german media reporting it. *shrugs* maybe I just didn't look hard enough.
Couldn't even find it on German tabloid. If it doesn't pop up during this day it is probably fake.
03-27-2017 , 02:52 AM
did not know Gorsuch's mom tried to wreck the EPA under reagan and ended up resigning from some funds mismanagement scandal.

so monday's news Kushner's going to be leading a new organization in the white house bent on turning america into a business and the public is the customers.

Yes, that is basically what he said. There's nothing americans love more than how corporations are run.
03-27-2017 , 03:34 AM
Kushner like trump is a second generstion real estate developer. These are some of the least bussinessy businesses that exist.
03-27-2017 , 04:16 AM
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Originally Posted by JacktheDumb
Couldn't even find it on German tabloid. If it doesn't pop up during this day it is probably fake.
https://www.welt.de/politik/ausland/...ben-haben.html
03-27-2017 , 04:29 AM
That uses the same Sunday Times article as the single source as the original link by RV life.
03-27-2017 , 05:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Sighsalot
He tweeted out like 12 tweets. The thread is interesting as is the info. Encourage people to read it
It's like 50 tweets, gotta expand the "replies" after like the first 12 and keep doing so like ever 10-12 tweets.
03-27-2017 , 05:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
Sounds fishy. We aren't at war; treason is completely off the table. Could be there's something to this, but **** is getting exaggerated.
Well, lotta Russins turning up dead, and former Russian expert at MI6 abandoned his $1.5M house to basically go into hiding.
03-27-2017 , 05:36 AM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
He meant the first week. Well, first work week. Ok, Friday until 1:00pm. That counts.
03-27-2017 , 05:43 AM
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Originally Posted by markksman
Kushner like trump is a second generstion real estate developer. These are some of the least bussinessy businesses that exist.
He is a young Trump: A mediocre person who grew up with every possible advantage in life and used them to get everything he wanted without regard for anybody he screwed over in the process.

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03-27-2017 , 05:44 AM
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Originally Posted by simplicitus
It's like 50 tweets, gotta expand the "replies" after like the first 12 and keep doing so like ever 10-12 tweets.
People who do this with tweets often have to meet quotas regarding the number of tweets per day set by their employer.

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03-27-2017 , 05:47 AM
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Originally Posted by markksman
Kushner like trump is a second generstion real estate developer. These are some of the least bussinessy businesses that exist.
In commenting on, I believe, Sam Zell, who made a bunch of money in shock-jock radio and then ran the Chicago Tribune and LA Times into the ground, some investment banker noted, "A simpler business than radio has yet to be invented," partly explaining how they could fail so hard at other things.

I feel like developing and flipping real estate is pretty simple business, especially when prices have basically been going up on the coasts since the depression. I mean if you're an ******* like Donald Sterling or Trump and his dad, pay a couple of bribes, don't rent to blacks, pay your financiers when things are going well, take the generous tax breaks, it's kinda free money.

Running the US government and shaping legislation and policy, on the other hand, is hard in the best of circumstances. There are experts in hundreds of little niches, and House and Senate procedure make legal procedure look simple and rational, and then there's the politics.

And, of course, Trump couldn't identify and hire competent people if his life depended on it.
03-27-2017 , 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Kirbynator
it's not treason to coordinate with a hostile foreign nation to rig your elections ?
The election was not rigged.
03-27-2017 , 06:51 AM
The word rigged is used to describe situations where unfair advantages are given to one side of a conflict.
03-27-2017 , 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Money2Burn
The election was not rigged.
Give me a ****ing break, I'm sure if it came to light a foreign power hacked GOP servers and leaked information to influence the election you and every Trump slappy would be screaming to high heaven about how it was rigged. I'll even go so far to say if HRC won the election, you idiots would be screaming about how rigged it was without a shred of evidence.
03-27-2017 , 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Money2Burn
The election was not rigged.
You mean the voting was not rigged. The election was.
03-27-2017 , 07:23 AM

https://twitter.com/EricLiptonNYT/st...20055994499073
03-27-2017 , 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by kre8tive
Give me a ****ing break, I'm sure if it came to light a foreign power hacked GOP servers and leaked information to influence the election you and every Trump slappy would be screaming to high heaven about how it was rigged. I'll even go so far to say if HRC won the election, you idiots would be screaming about how rigged it was without a shred of evidence.
Evidence for this - many Trumpers actually do think the election was rigged without a shred of evidence (hence losing the popular vote).
03-27-2017 , 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by kre8tive
Give me a ****ing break, I'm sure if it came to light a foreign power hacked GOP servers and leaked information to influence the election you and every Trump slappy would be screaming to high heaven about how it was rigged. I'll even go so far to say if HRC won the election, you idiots would be screaming about how rigged it was without a shred of evidence.
Considering Trump was claiming the election was rigged before it was ever held and after, even, I don't doubt that Trump supporters would be screaming if the shoe was on the other foot. That doesn't mean the election was rigged. Dropping mediocre oppo research that was illegally obtained is not rigging. It's almost certain that goes on during every election. Coordinating with a hostile foreign power, which is what appeared to have happened, is not rigging.
03-27-2017 , 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by wheatrich
did not know Gorsuch's mom tried to wreck the EPA under reagan and ended up resigning from some funds mismanagement scandal.

so monday's news Kushner's going to be leading a new organization in the white house bent on turning america into a business and the public is the customers.

Yes, that is basically what he said. There's nothing americans love more than how corporations are run.
I'm not too worried. Obama did the same thing and it didn't go anywhere really so my hopes and/or fears aren't too high. But isn't he supposed to the our foreign relations guy? If he's doing all the business stuff is Tillerson going to start doing foreign relations?
03-27-2017 , 07:57 AM
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Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.
Yeah that tweetstorm is definitely full of ****. Treason? TREASON? The aid and comfort all went the other direction here.
03-27-2017 , 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Money2Burn
Considering Trump was claiming the election was rigged before it was ever held and after, even, I don't doubt that Trump supporters would be screaming if the shoe was on the other foot. That doesn't mean the election was rigged. Dropping mediocre oppo research that was illegally obtained is not rigging. It's almost certain that goes on during every election. Coordinating with a hostile foreign power, which is what appeared to have happened, is not rigging.
With how close the actual election was and how many people that were on the fence the hacking had a positive effect for DJT and thusly hurt the HRC campaign.

It wasn't where votes were manually added or subtracted from either side, but that doesn't mean it wasn't rigged. Especially if it is proven it happened with coordination and collusion from the Trump campaign.
03-27-2017 , 08:14 AM
M2B,

discussing policy, making concessions, and coordinating with a (hostile, in this case) foreign power as a US citizen is an act of treason.

http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Logan+Act
03-27-2017 , 08:15 AM
Had a dream Trump got beat in the 2020 primary, then ran as an independent to tank election for the GOP and helped George Clooney win

I ate nasty homemade hamburger helper and wasn't feeling well before I went to bed
03-27-2017 , 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by +rep_lol
M2B,

discussing policy, making concessions, and coordinating with a hostile foreign power as a US citizen is an act of treason.
That may be the case, but they didn't rig an election.
03-27-2017 , 08:21 AM
It's very harmful to the future for centrist Dems to join BernieBros in irresponsibly throwing around the idea that elections are "rigged" because your candidate lost, since the GOP has already been banging that drum for years the general public gets a very cynical message and it provides bipartisan endorsement of inane conspiracy theories.

      
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