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I should be thrown into a wooden oven? Thrown into jail perhaps?

If I was American, I get that I would be punished by Trump, and that would suck. But I don't understand why you're so enthusiastic about punishing me.

No, I mean Trump's policies are going to hurt you.

Unless you are making $1 million/yr or more, Trump is going to hurt you.

And as someone that is on SSDI and Medicare, I will be hurt earlier and far more than the majorities of Americans.

So believe me, I am not enthusiastic about any of this.

03-24-2017 , 12:43 AM

#20977

Joe Pulaski

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Quote:

Originally Posted by raheem

Eric Bolling is holding back tears on the O'Reilly Factor.

O'Reilly and Bolling are good people. Trump is bad.

lol jesus.

03-24-2017 , 12:50 AM

#20978

raheem

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Originally Posted by Joe Pulaski

lol jesus.

Maybe "good" is the wrong term. I'm just saying they're not Nazis and right now they're very worried Trump is a Nazi.

03-24-2017 , 12:52 AM

#20979

raheem

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Originally Posted by RV Life

Yeah, I'm not an American. Long story how I got interested in American politics. At first it was as a Trump supporter, but now I had a 180-degree turn and I'm very worried about him.

He's unpredictable. Like he said literally thousands of times during the campaign.

03-24-2017 , 12:55 AM

#20980

dinopoker

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Originally Posted by ASAP17

Who is surprised though? Was a Dem for a decent part of this century.

ITs kind of cute that you think he had any part in writing his own book

03-24-2017 , 12:59 AM

#20981

Kirbynator

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the more i think about it the more this trump move feels like a huge lose-lose to him.

if he wins he asserts some dominance but even if he wins he loses a huge amount of his core support, and thats one thing that he tried to never do so far, alienate some of his hardest followers.

Not only that but he's basically saying his second option is not touching obamacare at all, which is another thing his followers never wanted.

hes breaking big core promises either way

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03-24-2017 , 01:04 AM

#20982

markksman

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https://mobile.twitter.com/TomArnold...38352659546112

I don't even know if the apprentice tapes got released it would have changed the outcome.

03-24-2017 , 01:11 AM

#20983

corvette24

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Originally Posted by fatkid

Second

Man it would be so sweet if the Nunes stuff was bait he took. Amazingly bizarre.

I find it likely that he found out there is more than smoke by finding out that the tapppppps we had on foreign targets picked up conversations with Trump and his associates, so he ran straight to Trump and they are downplaying it as incidental communications. There is something shady about the guy. Just throw him in with the rest of the lot.

03-24-2017 , 01:18 AM

#20984

RV Life

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kirbynator

the more i think about it the more this trump move feels like a huge lose-lose to him.

if he wins he asserts some dominance but even if he wins he loses a huge amount of his core support, and thats one thing that he tried to never do so far, alienate some of his hardest followers.

Not only that but he's basically saying his second option is not touching obamacare at all, which is another thing his followers never wanted.

hes breaking big core promises either way

His followers want him to gut Obamacare. Just don't touch that sweet ACA stuff they love. But now that the cat's out of the bag, (haha, we almost tricked them with the Obamacare/ACA stuff!) they don't want Trump touching healthcare.

03-24-2017 , 01:38 AM

#20985

Majik19

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Originally Posted by markksman

https://mobile.twitter.com/TomArnold...38352659546112

I don't even know if the apprentice tapes got released it would have changed the outcome.

Don Cheadle tweeted about his Trump nbomb experience about 2-3 weeks ago.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...09ab537d57435?

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03-24-2017 , 01:43 AM

#20986

wheatrich

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Hard for me to say this is gonna matter much in the end when I can't remember what happened a week ago. Just this week is insane and we're only at the beginning of the craziness of the **** show.

Quote:

Originally Posted by markksman

https://mobile.twitter.com/TomArnold...38352659546112

I don't even know if the apprentice tapes got released it would have changed the outcome.

If it was the last few days before the election, might've been enough, otherwise obviously not. The other video didn't matter at all in polling after a few days.

03-24-2017 , 01:52 AM

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synth_floyd

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So if the vote fails on Friday and Obamacare is left in place, is Trump going to try to sabotage it in order to make himself look good? What a sick human being.

03-24-2017 , 01:54 AM

#20988

Majik19

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Would not surprise me since he sent out his lackey Spicey to slam Obama for 5 minutes in the briefing this morning.

03-24-2017 , 02:00 AM

#20989

raheem

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Originally Posted by synth_floyd

So if the vote fails on Friday and Obamacare is left in place, is Trump going to try to sabotage it in order to make himself look good? What a sick human being.

Well Obamacare by itself too has some flaws, I mean premiums are going through the roof and stuff. But this new bill doesn't address the problem. It's all just so bizarre.

03-24-2017 , 02:34 AM

#20990

5ive

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Originally Posted by synth_floyd

Conservative elitism is the same. Gays shouldn't have rights. Minorities shouldn't have rights. America is the greatest country in the world and NEVER SAY OTHERWISE. They don't put up with dissent, that's why they are so anti-political correctness.

I seriously don't think there is any difference between conservative and liberal "elitism." Both sides don't tolerate dissent. Both sides think they are right 100%. Both sides laugh at the other for being dumb or whatever.

"Minorities should not be treated as Real White humans, you're dumb if you believe otherwise."

"Minorities should be treated as Real White humans, you're dumb if you believe otherwise."

Hmm... Same thing!!

03-24-2017 , 02:50 AM

#20991

dopebeats

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Quote:

Originally Posted by raheem

Well Obamacare by itself too has some flaws, I mean premiums are going through the roof and stuff. But this new bill doesn't address the problem. It's all just so bizarre.

See I feel that you are being purposely disingenuous for some reason. But, I do concede that maybe you are just ignorant and can't discuss things with nuance. Obamacare does have problems, but premiums going through the roof are mainly in states that rejected the medicaid expansion. States that went with the medicaid expansion saw lower premiums and a drastic reduction in uninsured folks.

Receipts:

https://aspe.hhs.gov/system/files/pd...pMktplPrem.pdf

03-24-2017 , 03:10 AM

#20992

raheem

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Originally Posted by dopebeats

Yeah I guess. What is the best thing that could've happened healthcare-wise is have Clinton president and she would've done some changes to address the premiums going up. Or I guess Bernie Sanders. Now that Trump is the president, it's like he has to repeal the whole thing.

Rubio or Kasich would have been reasonable I think.

03-24-2017 , 03:15 AM

#20993

dopebeats

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Quote:

Originally Posted by raheem

No, Clinton getting elected and Republicans having control of Congress would have resulted in Republican's doing the same **** they did for the past 8 years. Sending stupid ass repeal bills to Clinton only for her to Veto that **** and have it go back to Congress. They really never wanted to repeal it, they wanted to use it as an issue to gain/retain voters by bitching about it and then saying "Well, we tried but Obama sux".

03-24-2017 , 03:21 AM

#20994

Oroku$aki

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Raheem's talk of brainwashing is irritating. You'll go far in this outfit.

03-24-2017 , 03:22 AM

#20995

raheem

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Originally Posted by Oroku$aki

Raheem's talk of brainwashing is irritating. You'll go far in this outfit.

I'm sorry. I had a personal experience and I'm still a little shook from it.

But it is undeniable that a lot of things have been going on recently.

Only other week of Trump's presidency that has been this crazy is when the Muslim ban was suddenly implemented.

03-24-2017 , 03:30 AM

#20996

raheem

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Trump was surprised that the healthcare bill was more difficult than anything he'd ever done in real estate.

03-24-2017 , 03:31 AM

#20997

raheem

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Trump in a way has the mental capacity of a 6-year-old.

He said to Hannity "Look at my desk. Papers. Presidents don't have so many papers."

And now he rode the truck and played with the horn.

03-24-2017 , 03:37 AM

#20998

Giancarlo672

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I have not seen any kind of good thing from him yet. All he is doing for himself only.

03-24-2017 , 03:53 AM

#20999

BlueWillow

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It's starting to appear the trump train might be pulling into the station - hopefully this is the movie where the Feds are already there waiting for him.

03-24-2017 , 04:01 AM

#21000

raheem

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueWillow

It's starting to appear the trump train might be pulling into the station - hopefully this is the movie where the Feds are already there waiting for him.

Sean Spicer used an analogy that this healthcare bill is the only train leaving the station. That is kind of a Nazi reference, but also a reference to that there's not gonna be a new healthcare bill if this doesn't go through.

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