*** Politics Gun Owners Thread***

[General Tsao]

Originally Posted by Borodog

9mm, 17+1 rounds. Has since been reblued. Yes, that's right, I said seventeen rounds in the magazine. Mmmmm. Lead, delicious lead.

Ya that's pretty sweet. The new XDm has 19+1 I think. But ya, I want that, but I want sub compact so its not an option.

[Ineedaride2]

I need to find one for my wife.

Any suggestions for a compact pistol for a woman? She has a hard time chambering a round with my beretta 9mm, and I'm thinking revolver for her. I dunno, though.

[Wesker1982]

Originally Posted by Ineedaride2

I need to find one for my wife.

Any suggestions for a compact pistol for a woman? She has a hard time chambering a round with my beretta 9mm, and I'm thinking revolver for her. I dunno, though.

Originally Posted by Wesker1982

im prob gonna get my gf a ppk

If even the .380 is too much for her you could get one chambered in .32 acp.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.32_ACP

Originally Posted by Borodog

Is that what the kids are calling it these days?

[Wesker1982]

Borrowed this from my dad, Colt M1903. First handgun I ever fired, probably when I was about 4.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colt_Mo...ket_Hammerless

[DblBarrelJ]

Originally Posted by Metric

Btw, I'm glad you ran into a helpful guy -- most are like this, but just as a quick heads up, you should be aware that eventually you'll run into the stereotypical blowhard "nam vet" who will try very hard to convince you that his personal (and usually nutty) opinions on self defense/handguns are the one and only truth. For some reason, this type of person loves to work behind the counter at gun shops.

This generally says alot about the gun shop itself. I may occasionally check these places out to see if they have good deals, but without question, if the shop has a range attached, I will not use it.

Places that have sales staff such as this invariably have at least one of these actions, if not more, going on out on the range:

[ ] a guy holding his gun sideways, "gangsta" style

[ ] a guy rapid firing way beyond his own abilities, creating visible sparks as his rounds hit the walls of the range

[ ] a girl pointing the barrel of her gun at herself or you as she reloads her revolver.

[ ] some idiot practicing his "cowboy" draw with his loaded Glock, then looking down the barrel after he accidentally discharges a round into the ceiling.

(note: these are not hypothetical examples. These are all things I've seen on ranges. The best safety advice I always give new gun owners is this; Always follow the ten commandments of firearm safety, and only utilize ranges that have experienced, qualified, vigilant range masters working ON THE RANGE, not in the gun shop. The greatest RM in the world is utterly useless if he's in the gun shop, trying to rack up a sale.)

[Ineedaride2]

Originally Posted by Wesker1982

Borrowed this from my dad, Colt M1903. First handgun I ever fired, probably when I was about 4.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colt_Mo...ket_Hammerless

FOUR!? I'm from Georgia, and that seems a tad young.

Are you perhaps from Louisiana?

[Wesker1982]

lol no. At 4 my dad helped me hold it and all... might have even been 5, tough to say.

[CheckRaise]

i think i shot my first gun when i was 5 or 6, it was my dads Marlin Golden 39A .22LR and then a couple years later he bought me a Marlin Model 60 .22LR

[Low Key]

Originally Posted by Taso

I think if you describe your situation you might be able to get some recommendations wrt safety stuff, and storing.

I guess what I'm envisioning is storing it in my nightstand, where I keep the condoms, lube, vibra.. that sort of thing. Worried about reaching inside in the heat of the moment, grabbing around for a toy or condom, and accidentally hitting the trigger or something.

I'm sure the lbs/in sq of pressure needed to fire the gun would far exceed what I could muster at that time, but it's just what I have in my head.

Originally Posted by CheckRaise

ya leaving a loaded mag out of the weapon for long periods is fine as long as your mags aren't total pieces of ****. a lot of people like to load them up 1 round below capacity if they're gonna be sitting for a long time.

I couldn't even load the mag I was using to full capacity. =( I don't have strong fingers. (Am I loading it wrong? I could only get bullets in if I pushed down on the previously loaded one with my trigger finger.)

Originally Posted by Metric

Remember, you can always keep the magazine loaded and in the gun with the chamber empty, and this is already far less "ready to fire" than simply having a safety on. It will still take an extra second or so to get the gun ready in an emergency (by racking the slide to chamber a round), but at least you won't be fumbling around looking for multiple pieces of the gun, and trying to put them together in the right way.

Remember it? Heck, I don't even know what you mean.

Originally Posted by NeBlis

yeah Low Key can you explain your worry about accidental firing better? I get what your saying but im not sure if you arent over thinking it.

Everyone's good at one thing..

[Metric]

Originally Posted by Low Key

Remember it? Heck, I don't even know what you mean.

Since you fired an autopistol, I'm guessing you loaded it as well.

This involved a few steps. You had to put cartridges in the magazine. Then you had to put the magazine in the pistol.

But you weren't done yet. The gun was not ready to fire at this point. You had to do one more thing, remember? -- you had to pull back the slide and release it. This stripped a round from the magazine and put it in the firing chamber (the back of the barrel).

One way to keep and autopistol handy is to keep the magazine loaded and in the pistol, but no round in the chamber. If you pull the trigger in this state (accidentally or otherwise), the firing pin falls on an empty chamber and nothing happens. But if you need to fire the gun, you have to pull back the slide and release it before it will be ready -- this is quick, though, on the order of one second.

[CheckRaise]

Originally Posted by Low Key

I couldn't even load the mag I was using to full capacity. =( I don't have strong fingers. (Am I loading it wrong? I could only get bullets in if I pushed down on the previously loaded one with my trigger finger.)

i probably can't explain how to do this in words but i'll try

hold the magazine in your non shooting hand (i'm just gonna assume thats your left hand), use your left thumb and apply pressure to the bottom half (not the end with the bullet) of the round currently in the mag, slide the bullet you're loading in with your right thumb, while you're sliding the round in apply downward pressure at the same time move your left thumb away and the round should slide into place.

if this doesn't make sense just ask the guy at the range the next time you go and i'm sure he could show you or someone on here might be able to explain it better than my drunk ass can...you can also buy a little device called a magazine loader that makes the loading process a lot easier on your fingers, i would highly recommend one of these, they are pretty much the greatest things ever

pic of magazine loader

[Wesker1982]

magazine loader

[Low Key]

Originally Posted by CheckRaise

i probably can't explain how to do this in words but i'll try

hold the magazine in your non shooting hand (i'm just gonna assume thats your left hand), use your left thumb and apply pressure to the bottom half (not the end with the bullet) of the round currently in the mag, slide the bullet you're loading in with your right thumb, while you're sliding the round in apply downward pressure at the same time move your left thumb away and the round should slide into place.

if this doesn't make sense just ask the guy at the range the next time you go and i'm sure he could show you or someone on here might be able to explain it better than my drunk ass can...you can also buy a little device called a magazine loader that makes the loading process a lot easier on your fingers, i would highly recommend one of these, they are pretty much the greatest things ever

Perhaps I'm just as drunk as you, but It hink I would have to have serous cliping issues for your directions to work.

[CheckRaise]

wat

[Brainwalter]

Originally Posted by Metric

One way to keep and autopistol handy is to keep the magazine loaded and in the pistol, but no round in the chamber. If you pull the trigger in this state (accidentally or otherwise), the firing pin falls on an empty chamber and nothing happens. But if you need to fire the gun, you have to pull back the slide and release it before it will be ready -- this is quick, though, on the order of one second.

Yeah low key if you do this you can't possibly chamber a round by accident imo.