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04-24-2009 , 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Wesker1982
Borrowed this from my dad, Colt M1903. First handgun I ever fired, probably when I was about 4.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colt_Mo...ket_Hammerless
FOUR!? I'm from Georgia, and that seems a tad young.

Are you perhaps from Louisiana?
04-24-2009 , 10:33 PM
lol no. At 4 my dad helped me hold it and all... might have even been 5, tough to say.
04-24-2009 , 11:25 PM
i think i shot my first gun when i was 5 or 6, it was my dads Marlin Golden 39A .22LR and then a couple years later he bought me a Marlin Model 60 .22LR
04-25-2009 , 12:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Taso
I think if you describe your situation you might be able to get some recommendations wrt safety stuff, and storing.
I guess what I'm envisioning is storing it in my nightstand, where I keep the condoms, lube, vibra.. that sort of thing. Worried about reaching inside in the heat of the moment, grabbing around for a toy or condom, and accidentally hitting the trigger or something.

I'm sure the lbs/in sq of pressure needed to fire the gun would far exceed what I could muster at that time, but it's just what I have in my head.

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Originally Posted by CheckRaise
ya leaving a loaded mag out of the weapon for long periods is fine as long as your mags aren't total pieces of ****. a lot of people like to load them up 1 round below capacity if they're gonna be sitting for a long time.
I couldn't even load the mag I was using to full capacity. =( I don't have strong fingers. (Am I loading it wrong? I could only get bullets in if I pushed down on the previously loaded one with my trigger finger.)

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Originally Posted by Metric
Remember, you can always keep the magazine loaded and in the gun with the chamber empty, and this is already far less "ready to fire" than simply having a safety on. It will still take an extra second or so to get the gun ready in an emergency (by racking the slide to chamber a round), but at least you won't be fumbling around looking for multiple pieces of the gun, and trying to put them together in the right way.
Remember it? Heck, I don't even know what you mean.

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Originally Posted by NeBlis
yeah Low Key can you explain your worry about accidental firing better? I get what your saying but im not sure if you arent over thinking it.
Everyone's good at one thing..
04-25-2009 , 01:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Low Key
Remember it? Heck, I don't even know what you mean.
Since you fired an autopistol, I'm guessing you loaded it as well.

This involved a few steps. You had to put cartridges in the magazine. Then you had to put the magazine in the pistol.

But you weren't done yet. The gun was not ready to fire at this point. You had to do one more thing, remember? -- you had to pull back the slide and release it. This stripped a round from the magazine and put it in the firing chamber (the back of the barrel).

One way to keep and autopistol handy is to keep the magazine loaded and in the pistol, but no round in the chamber. If you pull the trigger in this state (accidentally or otherwise), the firing pin falls on an empty chamber and nothing happens. But if you need to fire the gun, you have to pull back the slide and release it before it will be ready -- this is quick, though, on the order of one second.
04-25-2009 , 01:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Low Key


I couldn't even load the mag I was using to full capacity. =( I don't have strong fingers. (Am I loading it wrong? I could only get bullets in if I pushed down on the previously loaded one with my trigger finger.)


i probably can't explain how to do this in words but i'll try

hold the magazine in your non shooting hand (i'm just gonna assume thats your left hand), use your left thumb and apply pressure to the bottom half (not the end with the bullet) of the round currently in the mag, slide the bullet you're loading in with your right thumb, while you're sliding the round in apply downward pressure at the same time move your left thumb away and the round should slide into place.

if this doesn't make sense just ask the guy at the range the next time you go and i'm sure he could show you or someone on here might be able to explain it better than my drunk ass can...you can also buy a little device called a magazine loader that makes the loading process a lot easier on your fingers, i would highly recommend one of these, they are pretty much the greatest things ever

pic of magazine loader
04-25-2009 , 01:47 AM
magazine loader

04-25-2009 , 03:12 AM
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Originally Posted by CheckRaise
i probably can't explain how to do this in words but i'll try

hold the magazine in your non shooting hand (i'm just gonna assume thats your left hand), use your left thumb and apply pressure to the bottom half (not the end with the bullet) of the round currently in the mag, slide the bullet you're loading in with your right thumb, while you're sliding the round in apply downward pressure at the same time move your left thumb away and the round should slide into place.

if this doesn't make sense just ask the guy at the range the next time you go and i'm sure he could show you or someone on here might be able to explain it better than my drunk ass can...you can also buy a little device called a magazine loader that makes the loading process a lot easier on your fingers, i would highly recommend one of these, they are pretty much the greatest things ever
Perhaps I'm just as drunk as you, but It hink I would have to have serous cliping issues for your directions to work.
04-25-2009 , 03:44 AM
wat

Last edited by CheckRaise; 04-25-2009 at 03:46 AM. Reason: just get a UPLULA mag loader, they're cheap and one of the greatest gun inventions ever
04-25-2009 , 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Metric
One way to keep and autopistol handy is to keep the magazine loaded and in the pistol, but no round in the chamber. If you pull the trigger in this state (accidentally or otherwise), the firing pin falls on an empty chamber and nothing happens. But if you need to fire the gun, you have to pull back the slide and release it before it will be ready -- this is quick, though, on the order of one second.
Yeah low key if you do this you can't possibly chamber a round by accident imo.
04-25-2009 , 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Ineedaride2
I need to find one for my wife.

Any suggestions for a compact pistol for a woman? She has a hard time chambering a round with my beretta 9mm, and I'm thinking revolver for her. I dunno, though.
Get her a 5 shot revolver with an internal hammer imo.
04-25-2009 , 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Borodog
Get her a 5 shot revolver with an internal hammer imo.
04-25-2009 , 03:27 PM
Love the pink grip imo. I mean, uh, for a chick. Obviously.
04-25-2009 , 03:47 PM
It's a little more gun, but I think this might be better for her than the revolver.

http://blog.riflegear.com/archive/20...-cute-and.aspx
04-25-2009 , 03:49 PM
Awesome.
04-25-2009 , 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by mjkidd
It's a little more gun, but I think this might be better for her than the revolver.

http://blog.riflegear.com/archive/20...-cute-and.aspx
Wow, now we're getting somewhere.

She has a purple flame thrower, but those things are hell to reload.

I may have an alternate she can be proud of, now.
04-25-2009 , 08:40 PM
i don't see why your wife shouldn't be as well equipped as you/any man to defend your self. Get her a normal pistol, like a glock 17 or 19 that can hold more than 5 rounds. she'll appreciate it when she's so nervous/full of adrenaline that she can't aim very well, and 5 rounds doesn't do the trick, and she doesn't hear "click click click" instead of "bang bang bang".
04-25-2009 , 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Taso
i don't see why your wife shouldn't be as well equipped as you/any man to defend your self. Get her a normal pistol, like a glock 17 or 19 that can hold more than 5 rounds. she'll appreciate it when she's so nervous/full of adrenaline that she can't aim very well, and 5 rounds doesn't do the trick, and she doesn't hear "click click click" instead of "bang bang bang".
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Originally Posted by Ineedaride2
I need to find one for my wife.

Any suggestions for a compact pistol for a woman? She has a hard time chambering a round with my beretta 9mm, and I'm thinking revolver for her. I dunno, though.

My problem is, she's not going to be able to operate just any pistol. If she could operate mine fully, I'd just give her that, but she can't. I need something that she can load, shoot, and reload by herself with no problems.

It's not about dumbing down the gun, just getting her something she can confidently use.
04-25-2009 , 09:24 PM
ok, well, what's wrong with her?

i think loading a revolver is much more difficult than loading a pistol, generally.

I guess my question is, why wouldn't she be able to operate a glock 19 or something similar?
04-25-2009 , 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Taso
ok, well, what's wrong with her?

i think loading a revolver is much more difficult than loading a pistol, generally.

I guess my question is, why wouldn't she be able to operate a glock 19 or something similar?
Ok, out of curiousity, I gave her my 9mm again and let her try to chamber a round a few times. After a little practice, she was able to do it fairly easily. I think she was scared of getting her hand pinched before (which is possible).

I guess pretty much anything is fair game if she can operate this one.

BTW, what's the deal with the safety on a glock? On the trigger? Why even have one?
04-25-2009 , 10:02 PM
hahahah, awesomely phrased question. I have no idea tbh. I'm planning on getting an XD which has the same safety type trigger, and I'm not sure how I'll find it. XD also has the hand grip safety, which I don't really like either. The 1911s I was looking at have the hand grip safety and the butterfly safety thing. I don't like all these safety features imo, but with the 1911 they're necessary because generally you carry it chambered cocked and locked na mean? But the XD and glock are double action so I don't know why they have teh safety features. Well, I probably know why: to give soccer mom's the illusion that they're somehow safer.
04-25-2009 , 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Ineedaride2
BTW, what's the deal with the safety on a glock? On the trigger? Why even have one?
The best explanation I've heard is that it allows you to have a fairly light trigger pull, while preventing the trigger mechanism from being "pulled" by inertia, if the pistol is dropped or thrown against a hard surface. This might not be the "real" justification, but it's the most plausible one I can think of at the moment. It obviously isn't there to keep you from firing the gun when you pull the trigger, like a manual safety is -- it's one of several passive safeties in the gun, which in use you simply ignore.
04-26-2009 , 01:39 PM
Woke up to find two gentlemen callers in my living room (lollolololollloll gay jokes!!!) and got to fondle one of their guns (hahahaha!!!!!11). It was a S&W sigma 9

It was pretty sweet, nice feel to it, though it was pretty darn heavy. Also, I felt like the slide was kind of difficult to pull back. Releasing the slide was insane, has a very powerful feel to the slide release.
04-26-2009 , 01:42 PM
my friend's got one of those. didn't shoot too well, but I'm fairly confident it was the ammo he was using (jamming problems)
04-26-2009 , 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by MuresanForMVP
my friend's got one of those. didn't shoot too well, but I'm fairly confident it was the ammo he was using (jamming problems)
It may be that things have changed recently, but as of a few years ago the Sigma was not thought of very highly by your average handgun shooter. I've never fired one myself, though.

      
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