*** Politics Gun Owners Thread***

[Montius]

Originally Posted by bluef0x

best cheap handgun yo? putting that into google yielded "the makarov" ... thoughts?

The proper follow up question is "for what purpose?"


Imo.

[General Tsao]

and also, "what's cheap to you?"

[ScreaminAsian]

got my purchase license today; i have 10 days to pick a cool pistol (first one)

right now kimber custom cdp II is top of the list followed by crimson carry II, but i'm gonna check out what they've got at the local shop friday. there's a gun show this weekend not far away, is it worth going to check it out? i dont want a used gun, it sounds like inheriting a problem.

im not gonna get a ccw license cause you cant carry in a casino, and the walk to-from the car is the only time i'd want it on me. so it'd be for home security* and range shooting. anyone have experience/tips with either of these? or possibly suggestions for similar pistols (i like the styles of these best of what i've been looking at, so that's why they're my favorite)



*playing around like james bond, posting up next to doorways, pointing it at the avatars of people i hate while im grinding online.

[General Tsao]

apparently you like 1911s? I'd suggest looking at some Para Ordnance stuff - they make 1911s which hold like 14-15 rounds - read up on them, though, IDK about their reliability.

As sexy as the 1911 is (and it IS), it's a pretty out-dated design. From what I remember about the Kimber 1911s is that they don't hold very much - I want to say 7-9 rounds.

For half the cost you can get an XDm in 45 which will hold 13+1, or you can get it in .40 and it holds 16+1, or in 9mm, and 19+1

http://www.the-m-factor.com/html/specs_3.html


edit: if you're in CA or NY, as I expect you are if you have to get a permit to purchase, I guess this stuff won't matter to you unless you're willing to break the law (they have 10 rounds max, right?)

[Borodog]

Jeez that two-tone crap looks bad.

[ScreaminAsian]

maybe my affinity for the 1911s comes from watching too much sleuth network. and im in michigan; had a 2-day wait for purchase license.

i'm not sure if there's a magazine limit here, i'll find out, though. i'll keep the XDm in mind when i go shopping, too, thanks!

[throwitback]

Originally Posted by bluef0x

best cheap handgun yo? putting that into google yielded "the makarov" ... thoughts?

look into a CZ-82 uses the same 9mm MAK round. picked one up for ~$200. so far i love it. your going to want to buy your ammo online. finding it for about $9-$10 for a box of 50

[ScreaminAsian]

ended up getting a Springfield 1911 A1



america's ****in awesome.

[UtzChips]

Originally Posted by Brainwalter

No, hopefully I never do.

Nope. Haven't had any use for my seatbelts since 1972 either, but I still wear them.

[NeBlis]

Did a little "cold war era" shooting today. thought you guys would like to see a few toys so I snapped this while cleaning.

[Such A Card]

Originally Posted by General Tsao

edit: if you're in CA or NY, as I expect you are if you have to get a permit to purchase, I guess this stuff won't matter to you unless you're willing to break the law (they have 10 rounds max, right?)

I live in NY and you can still own standard capacity magazines. The trick is you need a mag that was manufactured prior to some date in 1994. These are listed as "Pre-Ban" mags in online classified ads. You cannot buy a new-production mag that exceeds 10 rds. of capacity.

With a 1911 it won't matter since they don't carry over 10 rounds anyways.

But for a gun model that has been around for a while (lots of Glocks, sigs, etc) you can find pre ban mags for not much more than a new magazine.

I have a few 15-round preban mags that are NY legal for my Sig P226. Another trick is to not take the seller's word for it being preban. Go to a gun forum like ar15.com and ask people on there how to tell about your specific magazine and if it's preban or not. You'll probably get some nice photos and easy ways to tell.

The other way to immediately know if the magazine is not a preban is if it has a date stamped on it that is later than September, 1994.

But now that the federal ban has expired, a lot of manufacturers are not stamping dates on their mags anymore, so this is not a foolproof way to know if it's preban or not.

[Such A Card]

Originally Posted by NeBlis

Did a little "cold war era" shooting today. thought you guys would like to see a few toys so I snapped this while cleaning.

Nice...what is the one on the bottom? M1 Carbine?

[General Tsao]

what do you guys think about using a .22 for home defense/wild mob type scenario?

i've been thinking about getting a ruger 10/22 for this purpose, because ammo is so cheap, and I feel that a .22 will be good enough against just about anyone who isn't the military. if SHTF, I'd be able to have like 10k rounds of .22 ammo for super cheap, you know.

THOUGHTS, GO

[Borodog]

For target practice/mob hits yes.

For home defense/starving mob/zombie apocalypse no.

[BornToPun]

I'd say having a .22 is about 1/2 as good as having a "real gun." Most of the value in having a gun is simply the deterrence factor (most people are turning tail and running once they see your armed, they aren't gonna say "oh no worries that's just a measly .22, I'm not worried!") but a .22 isn't going to do a good job of stopping anyone with any level of determination.