Paul Ryan has a Poverty Plan - Page 12 - Politics and Economics

Funny how this came out the day before Ryan (and nearly every other Republican) voted to basically shift money from low-income families to the upper-middle class via changes to the Child Tax Credit. And people wonder why Ryan isn't being taken seriously.

07-31-2014 , 12:46 PM

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revots33

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Originally Posted by True North

I'm not a fan of the CTC (why a financial reward for choosing to have kids?) - but I wouldn't characterize this as a shift of money from poor to rich. Low income families still get the credit. A provision for very low earners is set to expire in 2017, so argument could be made they should have just extended that provision now, as part of the legislation.

07-31-2014 , 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by [Phill]

It wasnt a study, it was a dude with a calculator. No one is getting "every freebie", mostly because they tend to be short term and have ultra specific requirements often contradicting each other.

If they are truly short term, you better have a plan when they stop.

07-31-2014 , 01:13 PM

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I'm not a fan of the CTC (why a financial reward for choosing to have kids?)

Because children are good for an economy and kids growing up with more money is extremely good for a society.

07-31-2014 , 04:22 PM

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Because children are good for an economy and kids growing up with more money is extremely good for a society.

Sure kids are good for an economy but does the tax code really need to incentivize people to have kids? Could use that money to fund programs for actual needy kids, instead of giving money to suburban families making $150k.

07-31-2014 , 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by revots33

Just make the credit a flat allowance

08-01-2014 , 07:48 AM

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Like most Republicans, Mississippi Gov. Phil Bryant is an Obamacare refusenik. A staunch opponent of the law, he rejected the Medicaid expansion, refused to build an exchange, and won't encourage Mississippians to enroll in the federal backstop.

All of this is why, according to a recent report, the number of uninsured in the state has grown since last year, when Obamacare went into effect. As of this month, Mississippi has an uninsured rate of more than 21 percent, a 3.34 percentage-point increase over the previous year. By contrast, West Virginia-a similarly poor state that took the opposite approach-has seen its uninsured rate decline from more than 17 percent to an estimate of less than 7 percent, a slightly more than 10-point drop.

Obviously, the bad news made its way to Gov. Bryant. But rather than take responsibility for the consequences of his policy choices, Bryant set a new standard for chutzpah and blamed President Obama. "If statistics show that the ill-conceived and so-called Affordable Care Act is resulting in higher rates of uninsured people in Mississippi," said Bryant, "I'd say that's yet another example of a broken promise from Barack Obama."

In block grants programs where we do allow "experimentation" many Red States consistently pay out less and have higher poverty rates

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_a...ed_some.2.html

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