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Paul Ryan, Face of Republican Fiscal Responsibility, Shamelessly Joins Fox Board Paul Ryan, Face of Republican Fiscal Responsibility, Shamelessly Joins Fox Board

02-08-2011 , 09:42 PM
No, it's not. No politician has ever bragged about jobs created at H&R Block with regard to the Stimulus.
02-08-2011 , 09:45 PM
Doesn't matter. Money given to economically useless activity is the standard.

It's functionally and economically the same as unemployment compensation. And cash for clunkers.
02-08-2011 , 09:52 PM
That's $58B more than any democrat has offered.
02-08-2011 , 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by iron81
Sure, but there's lots of ways to gather and hide undeclared income, like gambling winnings. People cheated on their taxes even before Congress started tacking phone books onto the tax code.
And here is your typical answer and the reason why nothing ever gets done around here.

"Well, it has the potential to not go absolutely perfectly, so why the hell bother? Sure, better than the current system by FAR, but still has flaws, so **** it."



"Sure, it's $58B in savings, but it isn't $1352B, so why bother? It won't matter anyway. **** it. Let's just go make more signs with Hitler mustaches on Glenn Beck."
02-08-2011 , 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by jogsxyz
That's $58B more than any democrat has offered.
Robert Gates proposing $80b in cuts.
02-08-2011 , 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by iron81
Is Robert Gates a democrat? Serious question. I've always viewed him as relatively non-partisan
02-08-2011 , 10:26 PM
Dunno, but he works for a Democrat, that's good enough for me.
02-08-2011 , 10:37 PM
meh, fair enough. I'm sure he didn't make that announcement w/o running it by the white house. It's a good play, too. Gives the impression of fiscal responsibility by the administration, and gets the republicans panties in a bunch because they are talking about cutting defense
02-08-2011 , 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by mrbaseball
Ryan is guesthosting CNBC Squawkbox right now and he just decimated Congresswoman Maloney (NY-D). Actually she was just a ranting, partisan, fool who made herself look ******ed and Ryans cool demenor and logic and common sense just added to how stupid she looked.
http://www.cnbc.com/id/15840232?video=1785294177&play=1
02-08-2011 , 11:42 PM
Cliff Notes:

Rep: Blah blah blah
Dem: Blah blah blah

Obama could have done something bold or interesting with the tax code/massive cuts in spending, but he's 100% focused on 2012 so nothing substantial or noteworthy will happen until after 2012, if even then.

Ryan and Obama and all the other Dems/Reps besides maybe Ron Paul share one key trait amongst themselves...they are completely full of **** and just hope people are dumb enough to believe them...which most are.
02-08-2011 , 11:43 PM
I only posted that link because someone mentioned the exchange and I thought that people should be allowed to judge it for themselves. Didn't mean to imply that I agreed with his characterization of it.
02-10-2011 , 04:03 PM
Paul Ryan berates Bernanke of all people for deficits while still making no serious proposal of his own to reduce the deficit let alone the debt.

http://dailycaller.com/2011/02/09/ry...ut-the-dollar/
02-10-2011 , 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Riverman
Paul Ryan berates Bernanke of all people for deficits while still making no serious proposal of his own to reduce the deficit let alone the debt.
http://www.roadmap.republicans.budget.house.gov/plan/


Paul Ryan has had his "Roadmap for America" out for a year if not more.
02-10-2011 , 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Inso0
http://www.roadmap.republicans.budget.house.gov/plan/


Paul Ryan has had his "Roadmap for America" out for a year if not more.
1. Despite being completely in charge of budgetary legislation for the house, he has proposed a whopping $58b in cuts, total, out of a $1.5t budget deficit.

2. No cuts to defense spending even in his 'proposal' that has for some reason not been proposed as legislation = lol at its 'seriousness.'
02-10-2011 , 04:55 PM
lol, it isn't a dictatorship

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http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-0...publicans.html

And while newly empowered House Republicans put shrinking the U.S. debt at the top of their agenda and chose Ryan to lead on budget issues, his own panel won’t produce a spending plan that mirrors his proposals.
02-10-2011 , 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Inso0
lol, it isn't a dictatorship
Nothing is stopping him from proposing legislation individually ('How a Bill Becomes a Law ftw'), and again lol @ even his own personal non-proposal proposal that doesn't cut defense at all.
02-10-2011 , 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Inso0
lol, it isn't a dictatorship
Agreed, its supposed to be leadership. Not as easy as lobing grenades at the governing party.

Where are all the jobs and the decreased government repubs? They won a majority back in Nov' 10
02-10-2011 , 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by cres
Where are all the jobs and the decreased government repubs? They won a majority back in Nov' 10
So you're just going rehash Olbermann? Is that really all you've got?
02-10-2011 , 09:29 PM
actually it was a Maddow card from her show this week, 0 bills for the economy, yet 5 abortion ones.
02-10-2011 , 09:32 PM
to add, the GOP House sends bills to the Senate that have a zero chance of passing, like the Dem sent bills were stalled by the GOP Senators. Governing is about moving forward, not politiking, at least for the first half of a term.
02-10-2011 , 09:39 PM
Any bill that the repubs pass that will actually limit government is DoA in the Senate. Same with any job creation bill (which for repubs would be a large de-regulation bill). So tell me, what legislative procedure should a single house, of a single branch of government, use to magically create jobs and reduce the size of government?

Or are you just spouting a nonsensical talking point?
02-10-2011 , 10:07 PM
Its called cooperation or compromise. The GOP has a 1 sided approach, and if they don't get what they want, they whine to the ump(the voters). There have been many bills initiated by a single house, or are you now spouting partisan nonsense.

They ran on common sense approaches to problems, where are they so far? They may have been sworn in last month, that doesn't stop all the pre-planning. If they didn't, that would make them grossly irresponsible in their duties. They have 2 years (actually maybe 20 months, need time to campaign again)to carry out their plans, not 4 nor 6. They've wasted a month, or is that more nonsense?
02-10-2011 , 10:20 PM
What are you talking about? Why do you think the proposed budget cuts are so small? They are negotiating with the senate and the white house to figure out the budget and debt limit increase. These are the bills that actually need to pass if they want to avoid a shutdown (which at this point it appears they do). However, negotiations like this take time. Anyone who is expecting anything substantial to happen in the next two years is delusional.

The culture warrior BS is obviously just tossing bones to the base, same as the HC repeal. This is standard politiking regardless of when it is in the election cycle, or even what party you are in.

This idea that the Republicans won the house and are now responsible for the entire government is a rediculous talking point that the left came up with once they realized they were going to get their butts kicked out of office last November.

So tell me, what did the republicans run on that you believe they can actually get through the Senate and White House?
02-10-2011 , 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by will1530
Any bill that the repubs pass that will actually limit government is DoA in the Senate. Same with any job creation bill (which for repubs would be a large de-regulation bill). So tell me, what legislative procedure should a single house, of a single branch of government, use to magically create jobs and reduce the size of government?

Or are you just spouting a nonsensical talking point?
So are any ant-abortion bills, but that didn't stop them from being put in the House queue.
02-10-2011 , 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
So are any ant-abortion bills, but that didn't stop them from being put in the House queue.
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Originally Posted by will1530
The culture warrior BS is obviously just tossing bones to the base, same as the HC repeal. This is standard politiking regardless of when it is in the election cycle, or even what party you are in.
Why should republicans stick their neck out on substantial legislation that they know won't get passed?

      
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