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05-24-2017 , 07:14 PM
Eleven whites. Defense is complaining.
05-24-2017 , 07:20 PM
If there's a trial for your crimes against posting I'll make sure it's 50/50.
05-24-2017 , 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by USA Today
PITTSBURGH — The jury that will hear the sex assault case against Bill Cosby will include two blacks among its 12 members.

Prosecutors and the defense team on Wednesday also selected three of six alternates, and two of them are black...

The jury makeup of 17% is higher than the 13% black population in surrounding Allegheny County...
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05-26-2017 , 09:47 PM
Can't we all equally decide?
05-26-2017 , 10:05 PM
Who gives a ****?
05-27-2017 , 02:56 AM
The defense attorney is part of the jury selection process
05-27-2017 , 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by David Sklansky
Eleven whites. Defense is complaining.
Even if that were the case, doesn't the average jury contain 1.2 blacks? The defense complaining that 0.2 black people are missing is supposed to mean what exactly? I guess the prosecution should complain when there are only 10 whites, because they would be missing 0.8 favorable people.

Seems like the only fair option is to start putting pieces of people on juries from now on.
05-27-2017 , 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Our House
Even if that were the case, doesn't the average jury contain 1.2 blacks? The defense complaining that 0.2 black people are missing is supposed to mean what exactly? I guess the prosecution should complain when there are only 10 whites, because they would be missing 0.8 favorable people.

Seems like the only fair option is to start putting pieces of people on juries from now on.
Or increase the jury size ten fold so you can move the decimal point, which would clog courts up like crazy. I don't mind that they complain about 0.2 people, but I agree it should be in proportion. Also, it is a little silly to make this particular case about race, because there's a lot of merit to the case itself. Also, I don't mind if the prosecution complained if it were two blacks, and there is a 0.8 less white people than there should be on average, but there isn't much to do about it. DS likely enjoys the probability of jury selection, haha.
05-27-2017 , 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by leavesofliberty
Also, it is a little silly to make this particular case about race, because there's a lot of merit to the case itself.
The trial is meant to determine if the accusers case(s) have merit. You assumed the conclusion.

FWIW I think Crosby is a rapist based on media reports but no one in the process is supposed to factor that and you can appreciate the point here irrespective of Crosby.
05-27-2017 , 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by David Sklansky
Eleven whites. Defense is complaining.
Cosby hasn't been black in like 58 years so I don't see the problem.
05-27-2017 , 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by DVaut1
The trial is meant to determine if the accusers case(s) have merit. You assumed the conclusion.

FWIW I think Crosby is a rapist based on media reports but no one in the process is supposed to factor that and you can appreciate the point here irrespective of Crosby.
The only thing racist about Bing Crosby is his dreaming of a White Christmas.
05-27-2017 , 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by markksman
Cosby hasn't been black in like 58 years so I don't see the problem.
Well there is the percentage of blackness, I suppose. Very politically incorrect.
05-27-2017 , 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by DVaut1
The trial is meant to determine if the accusers case(s) have merit. You assumed the conclusion.

FWIW I think Crosby is a rapist based on media reports but no one in the process is supposed to factor that and you can appreciate the point here irrespective of Crosby.
Yes, I am assuming the conclusion w trial by media, which is unfortunately part of this case as justice works in my estimation.
05-27-2017 , 09:39 AM
This is a dumb thread so I'm not gonna feel bad about the OT, but leaves, do you intend your Location to be super tilting? The word is spelled "shrieked."
05-27-2017 , 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by AllTheCheese
This is a dumb thread so I'm not gonna feel bad about the OT, but leaves, do you intend your Location to be super tilting? The word is spelled "shrieked."
Changed, thank you. I had previously the underwhelmington, nh location, which is pretty loltastic/creative. I may change it up again soon.

Also, I suppose there are some white people who one might say are 10% black so you can hit the magic number David Skalansky is looking for w/ some fuzzy logic and political incorrectness. The creators of the Simpsons figured out the right number of kids in a nuclear family with the character Maggie in a similar way using fuzzy logic.
05-27-2017 , 10:58 AM
Pretty sure Cosby's lawyers also got the case moved from Norristown which has a very high % of non-whites.
05-27-2017 , 02:02 PM
The fact is that Cosby is more likely to be convicted with fewer blacks on the jury than he would be if there were a greater number of blacks. IIRC, Cosby, or his legal team, have suggested that the case is at least partially racially motivated. David, are you suggesting that the defense attorneys deliberately contributed to an 11-whites jury so they could continue to claim racial bias?

I've never understood why the attorneys have any say in the jury makeup. It would be like letting opposing baseball managers select the umpires. Their goal is not justice, but acquittal or conviction.
05-27-2017 , 03:26 PM
The only real question here is if the black juror had more or less sex in high school than math nerds like Sklansky.
05-27-2017 , 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by stinkubus
Pretty sure Cosby's lawyers also got the case moved from Norristown which has a very high % of non-whites.
Trial is still in Norristown.

Jury pool is county wide. Montgomery County (Norristown) is 8.7% Black

Judge granted a change of to venire (change of jury pool) to Alegheny County (Pittsburgh) which is 14.4% Black. Jurors will be bused roughly 300 miles and then sequestered.
05-28-2017 , 09:38 AM
Good podcast on racially based jury selection:

http://www.wnyc.org/story/object-anyway/

Wikipedia article on the case:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batson_v._Kentucky
05-28-2017 , 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by bigt2k4
The defense attorney is part of the jury selection process
Not sure what this means. If the prosecution is using peremptory challenges to dismiss black jurors then there's nothing the defense can do to stop them.
05-28-2017 , 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Paul D
If there's a trial for your crimes against posting I'll make sure it's 50/50.
lol
05-28-2017 , 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by David Sklansky
Eleven whites. Defense is complaining.
Haven't been following, but how many women?

Do you think he'd fair better with 11 black males and 1 woman?

How about 11 black women and 1 white male?
05-28-2017 , 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Lestat
Haven't been following, but how many women?

Do you think he'd fair better with 11 black males and 1 woman?

How about 11 black women and 1 white male?
Or how many murderers? Murderers make the worst jurors.

      
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