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05-22-2007, 09:31 PM
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grinder
Join Date: Oct 2006
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Re: ***Official Ron Paul video thread***
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May 22, 2007
Congressman Ron Paul will speak on foreign policy tonight on the U.S. House floor around 9:00 p.m. ET. The schedule for special-order speeches can change with little notice, but the schedule now shows around 9:00 p.m. ET. Floor speeches are broadcast as part of C-SPAN's regular coverage of the House floor.
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very good speech about a half hour long, hope its on you tube for those who missed
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05-22-2007, 09:48 PM
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#77
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Enemy of the State
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: I Didn't Vote, Bitch
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Re: ***Official Ron Paul video thread***
Someone I know posted this.
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05-22-2007, 09:48 PM
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#78
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Bragging about beats.
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Re: ***Official Ron Paul video thread***
heh I missed it.
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05-22-2007, 10:02 PM
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centurion
Join Date: May 2007
Location: IN UR WHITEHOUSE
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Re: ***Official Ron Paul video thread***
That's ok. I'll have it up on YouTube soon.
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05-23-2007, 12:50 AM
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journeyman
Join Date: Apr 2007
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Re: ***Official Ron Paul video thread***
Ok, so this isn't a video at all, but here are the remarks made by Ron Paul when the first draft of the UIGEA came up for passage in the House. I am adding it here to show what a friend he is to poker.
Congressional Record, House of Representatives, July 11, 2006
Ms. HOOLEY. Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from Texas (Mr. Paul).
(Mr. PAUL asked and was given permission to revise and extend his remarks.)
Mr. PAUL. Mr. Speaker, I rise in opposition to this legislation. It is not easy to oppose this legislation because it is assumed
that proponents of the bill are on the side of the moral high ground. But there is a higher moral high ground in the sense that
protecting liberty is more important than passing a bill that regulates something on the Internet.
The Interstate Commerce Clause originally was intended to make sure there were no barriers between interstate trade. In this
case, we are putting barriers up.
I want to make the point that prohibition, as a general principle, is a bad principle because it doesn't work. It doesn't solve
the problem because it can't decrease the demand. As a matter of fact, the only thing it does is increase the price. And there are
some people who see prohibitions as an enticement, and that it actually increases the demand.
But once you make something illegal, whether it is alcohol or whether it is cigarettes or whether it is gambling on the Internet,
it doesn't disappear because of this increased demand. All that happens is, it is turned over to the criminal element. So you won't
get rid of it.
Sometimes people say that this prohibition that is proposed is designed to protect other interests because we certainly aren't
going to get rid of gambling, so we might get rid of one type of gambling, but actually enhance the other.
But one of the basic principles, a basic reason why I strongly oppose this is, I see this as a regulation of the Internet, which
is a very, very dangerous precedent to set.
To start with, I can see some things that are much more dangerous than gambling. I happen to personally strongly oppose gambling.
I think it is pretty stupid, to tell you the truth.
But what about political ideas? What about religious fanaticism? Are we going to get rid of those? I can think of 1,000 things
worse coming from those bad ideas. But who will come down here and say, Just think of the evil of these bad ideas and distorted
religions, and therefore we have to regulate the Internet?
* [Begin Insert]
H.R. 4411 , the Internet Gambling Prohibition and Enforcement Act, should be rejected by Congress since the Federal Government
has no constitutional authority to ban or even discourage any form of gambling.
In addition to being unconstitutional, H.R. 4411 is likely to prove ineffective at ending Internet gambling. Instead, this bill
will ensure that gambling is controlled by organized crime. History, from the failed experiment of prohibition to today's futile
``war on drugs,'' shows that the government cannot eliminate demand for something like Internet gambling simply by passing a law.
Instead, H.R. 4411 will force those who wish to gamble over the Internet to patronize suppliers willing to flaunt the ban. In many
cases, providers of services banned by the government will be members of criminal organizations. Even if organized crime does not
operate Internet gambling enterprises their competitors are likely to be controlled by organized crime. After all, since the owners
and patrons of Internet gambling cannot rely on the police and courts to enforce contracts and resolve other disputes, they will be
forced to rely on members of organized crime to perform those functions. Thus, the profits of Internet gambling will flow into
organized crime. Furthermore, outlawing an activity will raise the price vendors are able to charge consumers, thus increasing the
profits flowing to organized crime from Internet gambling. It is bitterly ironic that a bill masquerading as an attack on crime will
actually increase organized crime's ability to control and profit from Internet gambling.
In conclusion, H.R. 4411 violates the constitutional limits on Federal power. Furthermore, laws such as H.R. 4411 are ineffective
in eliminating the demand for vices such as Internet gambling; instead, they ensure that these enterprises will be controlled by
organized crime. Therefore I urge my colleagues to reject H.R. 4411 , the Internet Gambling Prohibition and Enforcement Act.
* [End Insert]
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05-23-2007, 07:57 AM
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banned
Join Date: Dec 2004
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Re: ***Official Ron Paul video thread***
This is the first politician that I have ever really liked! It is just horrible that the party base seems brainwashed and will probably not vote for him. For example I asked my dad, a long time republican, what he thought about Ron Paul. My dad said that he thinks he is crazy. This is mostly due to the fact that my dad listens to people like Sean Hanity. I think that this will be Ron Pauls biggest hurddle.
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05-23-2007, 08:21 AM
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#83
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Trembling in fear of Ryan Beal
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Re: ***Official Ron Paul video thread***
lol, when I was a youngin my mom used to listen to him on the radio and just yell at him. Probably the most irritating car ride home from school ever. Although its not bad compared to the car ride home in which the parent smacks the kid on the way.
Sean Hanity seems to be one of the biggest morons in the country, hopefully he eats some bad food and dies soon.
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05-23-2007, 09:17 AM
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: 50°07'N, 05°33'W.
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Re: ***Official Ron Paul video thread***
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Everytime a mainstream idea is repeated however, the speaker is able to draw on the previous programming of the listener to respond to the ideas. So really if a propagandist gives a 5 minute speech, and a gadfly gives a 5 minute speech, it still isn't equal. What's actually happening is the propagandist is giving a 20 year speech, and the gadfly is still giving his 5 minute speech.
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One of the best observations I have ever seen on this forum. Kudos.
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05-23-2007, 09:17 AM
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Politics Court Jester
Join Date: Oct 2005
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Re: ***Official Ron Paul video thread***
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lol, when I was a youngin my mom used to listen to him on the radio and just yell at him.
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I'm embarrassed to say that I do the same thing. I've found that if I tune him in and call him a [censored] idiot all the way home, I feel better. I guess he's the moronic radio host equivalent to a stress ball.
The bad news is that I'm adding to his listener base when I do this. The good news is I don't give a damn about any of his sponsors, and boycott them all out of principle.
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05-23-2007, 02:07 PM
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Jan 2005
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Re: ***Official Ron Paul video thread***
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This is the first politician that I have ever really liked! It is just horrible that the party base seems brainwashed and will probably not vote for him. For example I asked my dad, a long time republican, what he thought about Ron Paul. My dad said that he thinks he is crazy. This is mostly due to the fact that my dad listens to people like Sean Hanity. I think that this will be Ron Pauls biggest hurddle.
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by any chance, did your dad mention which candidate he does support?
Thanks!
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05-23-2007, 02:51 PM
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King Emeritus
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: NEW AND IMPROVED
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Re: ***Official Ron Paul video thread***
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I feel sorry for this guy because it's simply not possible for him to make the points that he wants to make in the time he is alloted. It's even worse when someone like Bill Maher hops around to different very complex topics like THE CIVIL WAR and global warming. That said, Paul did a good job of encapsulating sophisticated ideas into few words.
If you'll notice, this happens to people like Chomsky too. Chomsky talks about how it's actually a good tactic for the corporate media to occasionally throw on a legitimate alternate viewpoint, because no matter how eloquent the person is, they're going to sound like lunatics.
Everytime a mainstream idea is repeated however, the speaker is able to draw on the previous programming of the listener to respond to the ideas. So really if a propagandist gives a 5 minute speech, and a gadfly gives a 5 minute speech, it still isn't equal. What's actually happening is the propagandist is giving a 20 year speech, and the gadfly is still giving his 5 minute speech.
Conclusion: the media is rigged.
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+1
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05-23-2007, 03:19 PM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Aug 2005
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Re: ***Official Ron Paul video thread***
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Someone I know posted this.
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Holy Krishna! She was on B O' RLY.
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05-23-2007, 03:33 PM
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#89
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Stronger than ever before
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Re: ***Official Ron Paul video thread***
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Someone I know posted this.
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Your wife promotes libertarianism AND acid?!?
She's, like, the perfect woman.
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05-23-2007, 03:46 PM
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banned
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 1,401
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Re: ***Official Ron Paul video thread***
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This is the first politician that I have ever really liked! It is just horrible that the party base seems brainwashed and will probably not vote for him. For example I asked my dad, a long time republican, what he thought about Ron Paul. My dad said that he thinks he is crazy. This is mostly due to the fact that my dad listens to people like Sean Hanity. I think that this will be Ron Pauls biggest hurddle.
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by any chance, did your dad mention which candidate he does support?
Thanks!
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Mitt Romney
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