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05-18-2007, 05:33 AM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Re: ***Official Ron Paul video thread***
Remind me again why Bill Maher has a television show?
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05-18-2007, 08:41 AM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Re: ***Official Ron Paul video thread***
I feel sorry for this guy because it's simply not possible for him to make the points that he wants to make in the time he is alloted. It's even worse when someone like Bill Maher hops around to different very complex topics like THE CIVIL WAR and global warming. That said, Paul did a good job of encapsulating sophisticated ideas into few words.
If you'll notice, this happens to people like Chomsky too. Chomsky talks about how it's actually a good tactic for the corporate media to occasionally throw on a legitimate alternate viewpoint, because no matter how eloquent the person is, they're going to sound like lunatics.
Everytime a mainstream idea is repeated however, the speaker is able to draw on the previous programming of the listener to respond to the ideas. So really if a propagandist gives a 5 minute speech, and a gadfly gives a 5 minute speech, it still isn't equal. What's actually happening is the propagandist is giving a 20 year speech, and the gadfly is still giving his 5 minute speech.
Conclusion: the media is rigged.
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05-19-2007, 02:49 AM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Re: ***Official Ron Paul video thread***
Bump
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05-19-2007, 04:09 AM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Feb 2007
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Re: ***Official Ron Paul video thread***
Sorry, I just watched the Ron Paul stuff from Bill Maher and I didn't think the media made him seem like a lunatic at all. He had a lot of interesting ideas, Bill Maher gave him a chance to explain them all, made a few jokes, but overall, Paul's points were very clear and understandable, and reasonable as well.
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05-19-2007, 04:12 AM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Re: ***Official Ron Paul video thread***
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Sorry, I just watched the Ron Paul stuff from Bill Maher and I didn't think the media made him seem like a lunatic at all. He had a lot of interesting ideas, Bill Maher gave him a chance to explain them all, made a few jokes, but overall, Paul's points were very clear and understandable, and reasonable as well.
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Uhm... Bill Maher did nothing but launch ridiculous personal attacks the whole time. He avoided actually talking about issues and dwelled on the Civil War thing, something that happened generations ago and has no actual bearing on real world politics today.
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05-19-2007, 04:18 AM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Re: ***Official Ron Paul video thread***
Dwelled on it? All he did was say the words "Civil War" after each thing Ron Paul said - it was meant to be funny, it sort of was, thats Bill Maher, its a political comedy show. He allowed Ron Paul to explain all of his posistions very clearly, he certainly gave him enough time to explain to ME, a strong dissaprover of Mr. Paul, how his posistions make sense. I came away from those videos with a much better understanding of Ron Paul's posistions, how he thinks, and I'm starting to like the guy a bit more. If it wasn't for a few key policies he has, I'd probably love him. All said, if he is the Republican nominee, I'll vote for him.
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05-19-2007, 04:21 AM
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grinder
Join Date: Oct 2006
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Re: ***Official Ron Paul video thread***
Bill Maher called Dr. Paul his hero tonight after his performance in this weeks debate. He also called out Chris Dodd for distorting what he said in the debate in an interview with him.
Maher said he wanted to get Paul back on his show and I'm guessing he will get treated better this time around.
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05-19-2007, 07:24 AM
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Aug 2005
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Re: ***Official Ron Paul video thread***
Noooooo Iron, don't give into the masses like this. Stick to your guns, buddy. We're all in this together; we can't let them win.
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05-19-2007, 10:54 AM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Jan 2005
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Re: ***Official Ron Paul video thread***
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Bill Maher called Dr. Paul his hero tonight after his performance in this weeks debate. He also called out Chris Dodd for distorting what he said in the debate in an interview with him.
Maher said he wanted to get Paul back on his show and I'm guessing he will get treated better this time around.
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Is this true? That's pretty cool, actually.
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05-19-2007, 06:28 PM
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banned
Join Date: Jan 2006
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Re: ***Official Ron Paul video thread***
Hay guys if you want to post some links to videos that would be cool.
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05-19-2007, 07:46 PM
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Enemy of the State
Join Date: Jan 2004
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Re: ***Official Ron Paul video thread***
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05-19-2007, 08:22 PM
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adept
Join Date: Feb 2005
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Re: ***Official Ron Paul video thread***
As someone from england who is not really connected with US politics, I have a couple of questions.
Is this guy really generating the sort of buzz it looks like he is? I know 2+2 love him, but he looked written off until I saw the text polls on fox saying he won the debate.
Secondly, how the hell did someone like that get elected, and how can we get more people like him over here.
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05-19-2007, 08:26 PM
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Enemy of the State
Join Date: Jan 2004
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Re: ***Official Ron Paul video thread***
He's generating a tremendous amount of buzz. It won't translate into success in the polls though because the pollsters are constructing the polls to marginalize him.
He got elected because he's from an obscure district in Texas.
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