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Old 04-22-2011, 12:12 PM   #91
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Re: Official Gary Johnson Discussion Thread

I didn't mean it in a trolly or subversive way, I'm legitimately excited about this guy and hope I get the chance to vote for him in the general election. My political ideology has changed somewhat drastically in the last two or three years wrt economic policy, but deep down I'm still a dumb 'social issue' voter, which I think is true of many of the 2008 Obama voters in my age range. Obama has been a massive, massive disappointment in that area. That Johnson has such a stellar economic record is sort of icing on the cake for me
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Old 04-22-2011, 12:53 PM   #92
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What I like about GJ in comparison to a guy like RP is that, regardless of what his philosophical views might be, he takes political goals that are far more realizable, things the president could perhaps have some impact on, and things that generally appeal much more to the American populace than a position such as Gold Standard or End the Fed which, while perhaps ideologically appealing and helpful in motivating a rabidly energetic core, are threatening to moderates and ultimately pipe dreams in the short-term future.
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Old 04-22-2011, 04:09 PM   #93
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSBbgaFxlSI

Wat? This must be edited by Think Progress, right? Or is he too scared to admit that he doesn't know what the act does and just heard the word 'fair' and made **** up?
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Old 04-22-2011, 04:15 PM   #94
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Wat? This must be edited by Think Progress, right? Or is he too scared to admit that he doesn't know what the act does and just heard the word 'fair' and made **** up?
It seems like they asked him a completely different question than what he is answering. Super easy to do this. You can make some very funny videos doing that.
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Old 04-22-2011, 04:24 PM   #95
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I never heard about Think Progress doing this (but I'm not paying that much attention to them). But they must've edited this, right? From what I've read Johnson sounds much more intelligent than to give these kinds of bull**** answers.
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Old 04-22-2011, 04:32 PM   #96
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Caught the tail of end of an interview with Johnson today on the radio. Interviewer asked him about his pro choice stance and how that didn't play well with a lot of Repubs. Johnson stated that it probably cost him in the primaries but if he made as the Repub nominee it would not hurt him in the general election. He stated that's what happened to him in NM. The other question was about the price of gasoline. Johnson stated that he believes in free markets and stated that he thought US citizens needed to cut back on their driving and that he'd be a lot more accommodative to domestic oil E&P than what currently exists.
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Old 04-22-2011, 05:24 PM   #97
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I'd say the peak intrade value might be the best shot.
Peak intrade value in what time frame?
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Old 04-22-2011, 06:46 PM   #98
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It seems like they asked him a completely different question than what he is answering. Super easy to do this. You can make some very funny videos doing that.
What question makes his answer not terrible?

Think Progress' thing is ambush journalism or whatever, where they ask hard questions with the little flip video camera. It's designed to make the interviewee look bad.
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Old 04-22-2011, 06:48 PM   #99
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I mean, here's the same interview:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9fXi...eature=related

Dude has kind of a stammer.
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Old 04-22-2011, 07:38 PM   #100
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What question makes his answer not terrible?

Think Progress' thing is ambush journalism or whatever, where they ask hard questions with the little flip video camera. It's designed to make the interviewee look bad.
I'm not saying it's not terrible, but it hardly seems like the answer to the question they supposedly answered.

They are going for gotchas.

It really appears to be a question about the CRA, which is what got Rand in trouble. But even that it seems like the answer doesn't make sense. "they go go overboard" is the first thing he says.

Of course, he could have confused the bill (or not known what it even was). It's always possible. Even if it was the question asked, I wonder what question he thought they asked, or if he was just Miss Teen South Carolining.

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Peak intrade value in what time frame?
Over the course of the election.
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Old 04-22-2011, 07:43 PM   #101
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The CRA, like the Civil War and Brown v. Board, gets people like Rand in trouble because they have retarded views on the subject.
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Old 04-22-2011, 08:20 PM   #102
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Wat? This must be edited by Think Progress, right? Or is he too scared to admit that he doesn't know what the act does and just heard the word 'fair' and made **** up?
The comprehensible pieces of the interview can be found in THIS article written by the interviewer.

It's purpose is to characterize him as a far-right reactionary for being pro-nullifcation and anti-child labor laws, which is naturally supposed to be a bad thing on a progressive site but from the few comments I've read it's interesting to see people actually defending Johnson's position on nullification.

As for the video you linked, it sounds like he either wasn't familiar with the legislation and wanted to pretend like he was or we aren't getting the full context of the discussion. I don't think his presumed evasion was with malicious intent though; he's been very forthcoming in every interview I've seen at least, and the fact that the interviewer didn't link that video in his article is a hopeful sign that the full context might not be as embarrassing as it looks.
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Old 04-22-2011, 09:10 PM   #103
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It's purpose is to characterize him as a far-right reactionary for being pro-nullifcation and anti-child labor laws, which is naturally supposed to be a bad thing on a progressive site but from the few comments I've read it's interesting to see people actuallydefending Johnson's position on nullification.
Liberals are capable of thinking beyond the here and now. Nullification is a bad word to dems atm because states want to ignore/destroy the healthcare bill. However, nullification wasn't such a terrible thing when then states pushed back on the REAL ID act. Some Dems remember that, and they understand that the feds are capable of passing terrible laws that states should ignore.
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The CRA, like the Civil War and Brown v. Board, gets people like Rand in trouble because they have retarded views on the subject.
It's more that most people cannot think logically. They think "This bad, therefore this should be outlawed!" "I don't like X, therefore NO ONE SHOULD HAVE X!"

Everyone knows best.
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Old 04-22-2011, 11:08 PM   #105
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uhhhhhh CRA = good, except for the federal government assuming it can override private property laws. Ever wonder where the federal government had precedent./authority to ban smoking in restaraunts countrywide? Yeah... racism is bad, but so is telling private proprietors how to run their private businesses. BTW Rand said racism warranted federalist intervention in the South, this stink is total muckrake

If a businessowner makes a decision why the hell should I put him in jail? LOL at you

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