I think there is enough interest to start a discussion here about the #occupywallstreet #occupyamerica #occupychicago #occupyboston and the other movements that are popping up around the country in every major city. It is hard to pin down exactly what this movement is about, but it looks like it is gaining momentum and building itself from the ground up. This movement is largely being ignored by the mainstream media because there is a lack of prominent people and cohesive goals. Although I think at this point some of the apparent goals are coming to light. I am sure those goals will develop as the movement matures. Or perhaps the movement will fizzle and everything will return to as it was.

Now time for the police brutality!



Here is an article from a journalist who was arrested while covering #occupywallstreet.

So, what do you guys think? Is this going to fizzle out and die? Or is there a possibility that we could be watching a major grassroots movement live on the internet?

I am hoping for the latter.

The way the ALPA was walking their line today was pretty cool. They had something like 700 pilots out there.

NYC Transit Union Joins Occupy Wall Street

The Local 100 New York chapter consists of 38,000 members actively working and 26,000 retirees. Whether or not Friday will bring out the Union's thousands of members remains to be seen. However if successful, the results could be the real push needed to regain momentum.





My crazy prediction: This will all fizzle out in 2 months, and everything will be back to **** as normal.

If the elite are lucky this thing will "get out of control" and they will get another step closer to their global Socialist police state.

Lots of people protesting nothing with no goals. Sigh at my generation.

I was blogging about police targeting peeps with cameras just recently on this BBS. I don't personally know Mr. Gross mentioned above, but I have met him. I haven't been paying attention to the #occupies. But he's 100% legit, so I will start to now.

The point isn't if the protests fizzle out. The point is 1000s, hopefully 1000000s will experience something truly wonderful and amazing... direct action. And every one of those people will have experiences that will change how they look at solving any problem... do it yourself! Organize, Organize, Emancipate, as us IWWs say.

And people need practice at NVDA. That's the most important thing. Because direct action truly get's the goods. Because we don't forget, and we learn from our mistakes. Even if a strike, protest, or other action "fails" it is still a success, because of the experience gained for next time. Another saying: every successful strike is a partial expropriation.

There is not a concrete organization but there are definitely common themes amongst those protesting. Number 1 seems to be a movement towards limiting the monetary control large corporations have over the political structures around the globe. The 2nd being a push for some type of shared sacrifice during the recession.

Your generation, my generation, is not something to sigh over. If you choose not to act you're the one who should be pitied, not the other way around.

You mean as the countries politicians, and many other speakers in leadership positions, continue the rhetoric of the exceptional nature of the American people, there is disharmony around the corner?

Nah, that could never occur in the land of milk & honey. Must be a bunch of college kids on summer break....................

Two things:

1) I'm disgusted at that cop pepper spraying those women doing nothing wrong. The same guy (Anthony Bologna, I guess being called Tony Baloney all your life can create some pent up aggression) is also in another video using his pepper spray to spray random people, including some cops. He is also involved in a law suit for his role in the 2004 RNC convention. The NYPD should probably investigate this dude and take him off the street for now.

2) Lol at this getting exactly zero mainstream media attention while a random tea party protest with 16 people attending gets a few hours worth of coverage. There goes this liberal media theory.

The funny part is, when the tea party first started, before it got co-opted by Hannity and those dickskins, their message was pretty much inline with a lot of what the the #occupy protesters are there for.

But, in all reality, these protests have been very small so far, even from accounts of protesters themselves.

the almost complete MSM blackout is really a bummer, makes me sad

I've seen reports of a few hundred people at some points. If you take into account that they're there for several days, including nights, it's probably noteworthy. Especially if you cover (footage, interview, analysis after the fact, etc) a Tea Party meeting at a local Denny's with <50 people attending.

Although I'm sure the dude's out of control, and probably needs help. That's not the real issue. What is going on in the streets is not a matter of "a few bad apples" or an "isolated lapse in training and supervision", or "unfortunate but honest mistakes". BTW, I'm claiming inb4 on these upcoming police rationalizations. It's the suppression of the ability to associate, speak, and organize. And it's a calculated exercise in projecting power.

As for the "liberal media myth", that always gives me a chuckle.

Chalk me up as someone who is happy to see this going and thinks its for the best that there be no one, single goal at this point.

Seems like a mess, but I guess that's how these things work. Just a bunch of angry people so far, claiming to represent 99% vs the 1%. Both numbers make me think they suck at basic math, but 99% vs 1% is easier to promote than being accurate.

Here's a few tidbits from site:
https://occupywallst.org/forum/

Here's a couple of the most popular posts, by # of responses.

99% or the 97%?
Posted 1 hour ago by DemandTheGoodLifeDotCom

There's nothing wrong with socialism
Posted 3 hours ago by shinyheart

Current official demand list and my reaction: care to give yours?
Posted 21 hours ago by npowell85 (Montana City, Mt)
Lastly, I hope they don't compare themselves too much to the Arab Spring. Having a cop be rough with you, is at least an order of magnitude less than being beaten, tortured, and shot.