I've given you specific evidence of systemic racism. You aren't interested in talking about it. We haven't even gotten to most of the evidence: blacks are far more likely to be arrested for marijuana than whites despite using at the same rate. The evidence goes on and on. Even if there were no discrimination today, the effects of past discrimination are still felt in terms of family wealth passed down, education level of parents and etc.

So yes, part of the problem of single parent families is the black community is the poverty and racism that those communities have experienced. You can try to cop out and say it's "culture," but that's a nonsense argument because the "culture" was created in the same context of deprivation.

If you want to be taken seriously, you have to seriously contend with the evidence instead of ignoring it.

Explain to me how a country full of people with access to free healthcare, free education and a general host of state inducements for home ownership etc are now better off. In a state that is either pure anarchy or run by the Muslim brotherhood/ISIS/random jihadi lunatics.

Gotta love that 'murican freedom.

I'd add a clear majority of Trump supporters were convinced that black people were evolutionarily inferior. That's pretty much the dictionary definition of what racism is.

That's not what the country was when the west intervened. There was a civil war underway. There were defections from Gaddafi's government. There were Libyan troops and foreign mercenaries targeting civilian protesters. And there were indications that things were going to get worse.

And free healthcare and etc. aren't necessarily great things if they come with a side order of government oppression and political corruption.

I am curious your thoughts on the 29% of latino, 29% of asian, and 37% of "other race" who voted for Trump. Racists? White supremacists?

Didn't take Trump literally?

Sounds very much like the US today.

Groups like cubans who traditionally vote conservative.

Latinos who hate blacks more than they hate Republicans.

Rich people of all races who vote on class lines not race.

Those weird self-hating ethnic minorities desperate to disassociate themselves from their own cultures and pretend they are white.

Marxists/anarchists trying to foster revolution and cause as much chaos as possible.

yeah discriminating against black applicants is illegal. im not sure we have the same definition of systemic racism. maybe thats my fault. also given your track record, im skeptical of the this info. what is the source? is the methodology sound? last time you presented evidence of racism it was a hit piece on nightline news showing teens vandalize a car. i offered to discuss the bias involved and you didnt want to

you cant just claim black people fornicate and the father neglects the baby as a result of racism. well you can in a liberal safe space i guess, but sane people expect an explanation to those sorts of claims
fyi clinton is white. i know she has some swagger and is extremely eager to let you know she likes hot sauce, but its true. shes not black. the nominees in this election were trump and clinton. both white. obama wasn't a candidate

do you know why cubans vote conservative?

yes, yes you are

The dude said Reagan. Lol.

Oh, it's illegal. So it never happens? Is it your impression that there are police officers monitoring hiring practices or something?

Given your track record, the fact that you don't remember me linking to the resume study is not surprising. Oddly, the link to the study was in the same post where I linked to the video that you are currently complaining about:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...ostcount=14730

As for discussing the video, you asked a bunch of stupid irrelevant questions and never bothered to make a point.

You think putting more black people in jail for drug offenses might have an effect here? How about poverty? Just going to rule those out, huh?

racist things happening and systemic racism are different. thats why i suggested we may have different definitions. i'll have a look at your source. if its accurate, its disgusting. the good news is that its illegal though

drug offenses etc are easily quantifiable. go ahead and take a stab. dont just claim sexual behavior and parenting decisions are the result of racism with nothing else. its typical lazy safe space behavior. im sure theres plenty of people ready to pat you on the back for this incomplete and lazy assertion. make a complete thought. you know its probably a good idea to figure this stuff out before you start rage labeling people and jumping to conclusions

The people who think Obama harmed race relations are the people who get upset when black people get "uppity."

As has been discussed, systemic racism has been a part of this country since forever and while things have certainly improved, there are still lots of problems. In this age of 24-7, constant access to media, many instances of this systemic racism have been brought to the forefront. That's a good thing. African-Americans and tons of Americans, in general, who support equality and humanity have been making their voices heard and are standing up for what's right.

President Obama acknowledged the racial problems in our society and rather than just trying to appease everyone and say, "Can't we all just get along," he said that the voices need to be heard.

President Obama didn't increase racial tensions or fan the flames of racial hatred. Quite the opposite. He helped the fight to bring awareness to the issues so many were either unaware of or in denial about. Problems can't be solved without an understanding of what those problems are; Obama himself shed light on the problems as well as not just saying it was ok to fight the good fight, but that it was necessary.

Juan,

Would you please explain your understanding of the difference between systemic racism and racist things happening? And then also please take a gander at this one:

a couple months ago i told 5ive he didn't even attempt to articulate a point or argument because he couldn't. he was just posturing as if he had clever insight while never providing anything

why are you choosing to ask this question instead of making a point or sharing an idea? if you have something to say, say it. otherwise consider that the reason for your choice to pose questions is based on your emotions more than a desire to discuss politics

I don't have a point to make until I understand where you are coming from. To add, it would be pretty ridiculous to discuss that something is racist with you unless we can agree on a definition of racism. I don't know yours.

lol healthcare scores of A or B

cool

im not sure you understand though, i dont value your opinion or pop quizzes. if we don't discuss anything, i'm ok with that. im not asking you questions or for your opinion. if you want to give one or provide something interesting, i will certainly engage. dropping pop quizzes while not making any point and bumping them repeatedly as if i should care just makes it look like you have some distorted sense of entitlement. you already banned me with no warning or explanation, i have next to zero interest in dealing with your emotion-based questions. make a point, dont, or keep bumping pop quizzes, either way im fine just interacting with posters who have an opinion

i just stated theres a difference between racism and systemic racism. earth shattering controversy? if you have an opinion on the topic, go for it

i think we can all agree that if harvard singled out asians and required them to score significantly higher on tests to be accepted, based on race, as policy, that would be different than a single professor grading his asian students more harshly, based on race, against school policy

OK, then please confine yourself to 7.0.

you have already banned me. im not trying to interact with you. you are in my thread repeatedly asking me questions. just to be clear, are you suggesting that i can't ignore you in this section? i have to answer your questions?

i stated i am interested in engaging anyone including yourself who has an opinion, and not just questions. for clarity, you want me to leave this section and ignoring you isnt an option? is this a warning or suggestion?

It's not a warning or a suggestion. It's the end of your posting in this forum because you are not interested in having an honest discussion with anyone.

Why would juan namedrop me? I wasn't even going to bother.

This is one of the most incredible exchanges I've ever had on 2p2:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...ostcount=14555

tl;dr: juan asks me for an anecdotal experience, I provide, he complains that he asked me a question and I just answered with an anecdote

This isn't a blog, we are here to have discussions. If you refuse to, there is no point in you making threads

I'd like to hear Juan's take on why all these black fathers he referenced are abandoning their children.