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Old 04-01-2012, 07:00 AM   #26
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Re: NYC bans food donations to city's homeless shelters

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This is a real feel good story, the food police had to step in, apparently to make sure those hungry hungry homeless weren't getting too much salt or fat.

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/03/...-the-homeless/
Read between the lines, the food causes them more time open it, they also want to skim off the top of the donations to give to unions.
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Old 04-01-2012, 07:19 AM   #27
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Lazy, greedy unionists. How typical, wanting a piece of the garbage-food action.
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Old 04-01-2012, 05:01 PM   #28
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Lazy, greedy unionists. How typical, wanting a piece of the garbage-food action.
Tony Soprano though!
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Old 04-02-2012, 04:14 PM   #29
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Tony Soprano though!
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Old 04-02-2012, 05:08 PM   #30
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I wonder how many homeless people will starve because of this?

Oh, yeah. Zero.
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Old 04-02-2012, 05:10 PM   #31
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I wonder how many homeless people will starve because of this?

Oh, yeah. Zero.
I wonder how much more costly and wasteful feeding them will become. I wonder how much more government charity rather than private charity will grow.

Oh,yeah. A ****ton.
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Old 04-02-2012, 05:17 PM   #32
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The outrage itt is adorable.

How dare NYC make sure they give homeless healthy food instead of any crap that random people drop off! Arglebargle.
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Old 04-02-2012, 05:22 PM   #33
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The outrage itt is adorable.

How dare NYC make sure they give homeless healthy food instead of any crap that random people drop off! Arglebargle.
They aren't making sure of **** all exempt that they and noone else is in charge. Heaven forbid that Joe homeless guy gets a little to much salt in his charity provided meal. GMAFB.
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Old 04-02-2012, 06:19 PM   #34
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Re: NYC bans food donations to city's homeless shelters

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The outrage itt is adorable.

How dare NYC make sure they give homeless healthy food instead of any crap that random people drop off! Arglebargle.
Wait, what?

How did you arrive at the bolded? I didn't read anything that said people who previously were donating "bad" (lol) food are now going to donate "approved" food.
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Old 04-02-2012, 06:19 PM   #35
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Re: NYC bans food donations to city's homeless shelters

Also, I am pretty sure the homeless people were never under any obligation to eat anything that had "too much" salt to begin with.
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Old 04-02-2012, 08:08 PM   #36
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Re: NYC bans food donations to city's homeless shelters

It is entirely possible the city shelters find it cheaper to make their own food (free labor and probably donations of raw food and all) than accept donations of leftovers (admin and potential litigation)
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Old 04-02-2012, 08:14 PM   #37
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I wonder how many homeless people will starve because of this?

Oh, yeah. Zero.
Thousands? They just might not be American homeless living in NYC.
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Old 04-02-2012, 08:15 PM   #38
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It is entirely possible the city shelters find it cheaper to make their own food (free labor and probably donations of raw food and all) than accept donations of leftovers (admin and potential litigation)
Well, then "bans donations" is a weird way of putting it. No longer accepting donations?
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Old 04-02-2012, 08:22 PM   #39
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Re: NYC bans food donations to city's homeless shelters

I do find the ordinance a bit odd but in my experience doing community service (volunteer), I have never been to a shelter or soup kitchen that actually needed food.

Food is dirt cheap in America. Even manpower is easy to come by through volunteer (or just community service sentences). What the shelters and kitchens invariably need is space and money for rent.

At least that's my experience in suburban NJ and NYC.
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Thousands? They just might not be American homeless living in NYC.
You think that thousands of people will starve somewhere else because New York City homeless shelters aren't accepting some food donations?
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Old 04-02-2012, 10:43 PM   #41
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Wait, what?

How did you arrive at the bolded? I didn't read anything that said people who previously were donating "bad" (lol) food are now going to donate "approved" food.
I read the OP and article. I don't know what your last sentence even means.
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Old 04-03-2012, 12:10 AM   #42
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The outrage itt is adorable.

How dare NYC make sure they give homeless healthy food instead of any crap that random people drop off! Arglebargle.

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Old 04-03-2012, 12:59 AM   #43
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I do find the ordinance a bit odd but in my experience doing community service (volunteer), I have never been to a shelter or soup kitchen that actually needed food.

Food is dirt cheap in America. Even manpower is easy to come by through volunteer (or just community service sentences). What the shelters and kitchens invariably need is space and money for rent.

At least that's my experience in suburban NJ and NYC.
Foodbanks obviously need food, and they accept labeled canned food donations pretty much always. It's really not surprising though that the hassle from figuring out what to do with random leftovers doesn't make it worth it.
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You think that thousands of people will starve somewhere else because New York City homeless shelters aren't accepting some food donations?
Yes...? Money is a fungible shorthand for wealth and can be expressed in many ways, such as "food not thrown away to rot" or "poor people not starving to death." Things which squander wealth can be thought of as things which allow people to die (in a world of scarcity, at least). Its usually a bit of a rhetorical and heavy-handed point (though still accurate) to consider EVERY example of waste as some cliched "starving African child" but in the context of a discussion about hungry homeless people, I think its pretty appropriate.
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Old 04-03-2012, 02:45 AM   #45
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Re: NYC bans food donations to city's homeless shelters

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The outrage itt is adorable.

How dare NYC make sure they give homeless healthy food instead of any crap that random people drop off! Arglebargle.
You realise that when you have a low calorie intake, the definition of what constitutes healthy changes a lot.

Also when your life is on the skidz maybe some cheap carbs and fat and salt offer more a morale boost than a lettuce leaf.

Also you are assuming only unhealthy donations have been banned.

Mind blown that someone has chimed in sympathetically for this ruling.

Seems like the only motivation could be to poke fun at the usual suspects.
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The outrage itt is adorable.

How dare NYC make sure they give homeless healthy food instead of any crap that random people drop off! Arglebargle.
Of all the problems the homeless have, having the option to eat day-old bagels and leftover porterhouses isn't one of them.
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Its usually a bit of a rhetorical and heavy-handed point (though still accurate) to consider EVERY example of waste as some cliched "starving African child" but in the context of a discussion about hungry homeless people, I think its pretty appropriate.
It's better for the African children to starve, otherwise they may not get enough fiber.
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The outrage itt is adorable.

How dare NYC make sure they give homeless healthy food instead of any crap that random people drop off! Arglebargle.
I'm sensing a lot more "lol bureaucracy" than "outrage".
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Yes...? Money is a fungible shorthand for wealth and can be expressed in many ways, such as "food not thrown away to rot" or "poor people not starving to death." Things which squander wealth can be thought of as things which allow people to die (in a world of scarcity, at least). Its usually a bit of a rhetorical and heavy-handed point (though still accurate) to consider EVERY example of waste as some cliched "starving African child" but in the context of a discussion about hungry homeless people, I think its pretty appropriate.
I guess I better make sure I eat those leftovers so Ndugu will be spared.

This theory is pretty ridiculous. But, yeah, too bad NYC isn't doing more to utilize the waste of the free market.

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