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North Korea wins Cyber Battle with the Sony Pictures/U.S North Korea wins Cyber Battle with the Sony Pictures/U.S

12-18-2014 , 11:09 AM
He's the top of my list of worst people in the world.
12-18-2014 , 11:13 AM
I can only assume that's because you've ignored his work from the last couple years.
12-18-2014 , 11:14 AM
I've refused to let him have any of my money for a long time based on principle.

Also, his acting ability doesn't make him any better or worse of a person.
12-18-2014 , 11:20 AM
Well that's a silly principle that's keeping you from seeing a few really great movies, plus a pretty damn good television show.
12-18-2014 , 11:26 AM
I'm a man of strict principles, what can I say?

But no amount of enjoyment could surpass the guilt I'd feel for supporting that person.
12-18-2014 , 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by DVaut1
Actually I suspect it's not an excuse and their rationale is somewhat legitimate. They probably aren't super concerned about violence but probably retribution of more embarrassing leaks. They may think killing the movie might work to stop it. Since it's just a huge pile of data, no one in the company is going to have any idea what other racist emails are floating on their servers, or child porn, or credit card data, private data, data that suggests criminality, whatever. They probably do have to be concerned there is some proverbial other shoe to drop.
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12-18-2014 , 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
Man, Dids is usually the voice of reason, but this is some ludicrous victim blaming ITT. Sorry that the guys who's keeping 100,000 people in death camps caught some bad feels from a crappy stoner comedy, but I'm not sure if tsk-tsking Sony is really the appropriate response.

A real Social Justice Warrior would be griping about how flavor of the month Jennifer Garner is getting paid less than her male colleagues.
I'm not sleeping for **** and wasn't very lucid yesterday and am worse today- so I don't think I made my points well.

1- as to the #HOTTAKES thing- I wasn't ripping actual Hot Takes (I mean I love me some hot takes), just people firing them off when they didn't have a full picture.

2- There doesn't have to be one response to everything, and my point about my feelings on the morality of making that sort of movie is basically removed from the specific situation. That was just an aside about my gut emotional response to things. That mostly comes into play when people start talking about how this is a big loss for freedom of expression. A- I am making the assumption that the choice to use a real person is more about the attention it will draw and marketing for the film than actual artistry (and I'm uncomfortable marketing something of that nature- which I acknowledge probably leaves me on an island) B- It just feels more complex than that when you consider the financial/super super tiny possibility of actual risk to safety. Maybe that's dumb, I dunno. Sometimes the world sucks and we have to make ****ty choices and compromises, and as somebody who values pragmatism over idealism, I'm maybe more comfortable with the decisions people made than I am bothered by any implications for the future.

3- Yeah, North Korea is awful, and for reasons that go well beyond hacking Sony or getting a bad movie shut down. They're clearly the bad guys here, and maybe it's dumb to interject the point that while they're the bad guys I'm not overwhelmed with sympathy for the victims.

4- Jennifer Garner is disturbingly somehow perfectly average and incredibly cute and super sexy in those airplane commercials and should have all the monies and the Didses.
12-18-2014 , 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by zikzak
I can only assume that's because you've ignored his work from the last couple years.
I agree with you, but, if I were to play devil's advocate I'd counter with, "Does the fact that he was in a couple of GOAT projects the last couple of years erase all the **** that came before?"

I mean, yes, he was fantastic in Dallas Buyer's Club and True Detective, but the existence of those two does not mean that Contact and Failure to Launch and EdTV and The Wedding Planner never happened.
12-18-2014 , 12:48 PM
After Sony canceled the release of the North Korea assassination comedy The Interview, a Texas theater said it would swap the film with Paramount's 2004 film Team America: World Police for one free screening.

"We're just trying to make the best of an unfortunate situation," James Wallace, creative manager and programmer at the Alamo Drafthouse Cinema's Dallas/Fort Worth location, tells The Hollywood Reporter.
12-18-2014 , 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Ashington
I agree with you, but, if I were to play devil's advocate I'd counter with, "Does the fact that he was in a couple of GOAT projects the last couple of years erase all the **** that came before?"

I mean, yes, he was fantastic in Dallas Buyer's Club and True Detective, but the existence of those two does not mean that Contact and Failure to Launch and EdTV and The Wedding Planner never happened.
I would have to question the wisdom of seeing enough of those movies to develop a strong negative opinion in the first place.
12-18-2014 , 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Dids
This is just me moralizing, but I just can't get mad /am glad it's not happening because I mean come on don't make a movie about killing real people, even if they are horrible murderous despots. Especially when the most obvious motivating factor for using a real person and not just a random fictional creation is attention grabbing marketing. Congrats, you grabbed your attention- now enjoy it.

Pardon me while I search your 57,000 post history for some patronizing rhetoric about the release of "Death of a President", an award-winning mockumentary portraying the assassination of George W. Bush.

Feel free to stop me if you know my search will come up empty.
12-18-2014 , 01:21 PM
Pretty sure I'll let you waste your time.

When I was younger (**** I've been on here a long time) I might have thought something like that- but I'm pretty sure I never would have posted it because omg bans. Sometimes the way people feel changes, I might not have made that post even 2 years ago. Need how growing up works.

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I mean, yes, he was fantastic in Dallas Buyer's Club and True Detective, but the existence of those two does not mean that Contact and Failure to Launch and EdTV and The Wedding Planner never happened.
How much do you fault a guy for half assing it and cashing a check. No idea what Low Key's issues with him are (I want to fight him for those ****ing awful Lincoln commercials)- but I can't fault a guy for the crime of mediocre cinema.
12-18-2014 , 01:27 PM
I'd like to hack Garner's inbox, if you know what I mean.
12-18-2014 , 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Inso0
Pardon me while I search your 57,000 post history for some patronizing rhetoric about the release of "Death of a President", an award-winning mockumentary portraying the assassination of George W. Bush.

Feel free to stop me if you know my search will come up empty.
There's a reasonable discussion to be bad about whether that kind of movie is appropriate or not, but I think in the context of right now the optics of it are all not good.
12-18-2014 , 02:13 PM
You respond by telling corporations to maybe employ IT a little better than storing passwords in a folder named "Passwords", especially if you're going to be in possession of property that might be desirable or embarrassing to others. "Proportional response" my God, what does that even mean when dealing with North ****ing Korea? American corporations deal with hacking attempts all the time.
12-18-2014 , 02:27 PM
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You respond by telling corporations to maybe employ IT a little better than storing passwords in a folder named "Passwords"
Yeah, but if Obama did that, something something communism
12-18-2014 , 02:30 PM
Lol at you guys.


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@ABC: White House: "Destructive activity" of Sony hackers "merits an appropriate response" - @stevenportnoy
12-18-2014 , 02:32 PM
Hope you think some stern words at the UN are an appropriate response since that's what you are going to get, but somehow I think you have something different in mind.
12-18-2014 , 02:43 PM
The only response worthy of a western civilization is to get all the studios of Hollywood all in unity/protest/defiance to produce 10 different movies, most involving quality humor against North Korean Regime and their hackers and a couple of quality drama movies involving the hard life of the people of North Korea under such oppressive regime. If they can insult a few Taliban and other extremists like ISIS and their radical clerics on the other side of the planet while at it, all the better. 50% of the profits to be used to help those fighting the regime and for humanitarian projects worldwide and even North Koreans if possible (since its such a closed system and hard to get to them). Wouldn't mind also a quality self critical film of Hollywood itself (as exposed in emails etc). Yes some 10 films like that to make a point to everyone. Come and cyber bomb our theaters now you losers.

But of course i do not expect that from the US that was unable to respond to 9/11 attack the only symbolic way that made sense and would mean something profound (other than what they did to the Taliban - if only they had done it so much better and proved a real nation building for Afghanistan, skipping Iraq completely and all the bs war crime events and disgraces that insulted/obscured the real good work done).

What would be that other than of course a proper tribute museum in the general area of the 2 towers? For example to build (in a slightly different but very close place, after all the entire ground zero area was much wider now after demolishing other side buildings too) the roughly same 2 towers, only much better, stronger, brighter (high tech and modernized in architectural style), somewhat taller and on top of each of them place a tribute mini museum, a NY city destination landmark to visit, with various replicas of major world art, all made entirely of pure marble, real sculptures involving super complex/elaborate art work to rival the originals in commitment to perfection and effort, including the Taliban destroyed Buddhist temples. Most importantly on top of everything, instead of antennas, 2 giant eagle sculptures, one in each building, holding in their legs miniature planes and a label below it all declaring to the skies; This is your new target.


It is the only way to insult morons worldwide and at the same time take revenge for all those that died, the straightforward defiant way that would honor their spirits. This is how you reclaim your skyline!
12-18-2014 , 02:46 PM
not sure if satire
12-18-2014 , 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by TwoMoos
Making jokes about killing the president can earn at least a visit by the Secret Service in the U.S. Why should making a joke of killing a foreign leader get a free pass? Sony Pictures deserves no sympathy for producing a stupid, insulting film.
While George W. Bush was in office, a movie was made and released with a plot that centered on the assassination of Bush.
12-18-2014 , 03:41 PM
Really did not expect Sony to back down from this. Some question if NK have the hacking capabilities, but if wasn't NK then who did it. Also, I thought Sony would have got their security in check after the attack by anonymous.
12-18-2014 , 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by RowCoach
Lol at you guys.

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@ABC: White House: "Destructive activity" of Sony hackers "merits an appropriate response" - @stevenportnoy
What do you think this quote proves? No one doubted the capacity of pundits and the Obama Admin to just talk tough guy talk and promise an appropriate response. What form do you think that will take?
12-18-2014 , 04:04 PM
It's an example of post-policy thinking: Obama needs to *do* something about North Korea. What that something actually is is a minor detail, the important thing is that Obama is just too naive and meek to stand up to these threats to our national sovereignty.
12-18-2014 , 04:05 PM
Obama already had an appropriate response: "Go to the movies." He missed laughing at Sony as well as the people who think that NK actually has the capability to carry out mass terror on random theaters across the country, but hopefully that's coming soon.

      
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