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11-13-2015 , 06:15 PM

sqwerty12

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Reported 30 dead so far. Bombs outside France v Germany football game and 100 hostages being held by gunmen at an Eagles of Death Metal concert.

Frightening

11-13-2015 , 06:18 PM

suzzer99

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Here we go again.

11-13-2015 , 06:18 PM

lozen

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In B4 we find out they are Muslim.

Will be another excuse for Old white dudes to send more young men to war to fight terrorism.

Tragic Paris again

11-13-2015 , 06:20 PM

ALLTheCookies

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please don't be a refugee please don't be a refugee please don't be a refugee

11-13-2015 , 06:20 PM

DVaut1

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Originally Posted by lozen

In B4 we find out they are Muslim.

Will be another excuse for Old white dudes to send more young men to war to fight terrorism.

Tragic Paris again

Very American centric perspective. In this case it's inb4 we find out they are Muslims and Europe freaks the **** out about refugees.

11-13-2015 , 06:32 PM

MrWookie

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Originally Posted by DVaut1

Very American centric perspective. In this case it's inb4 we find out they are Muslims and Europe freaks the **** out about refugees.

Definitely this. Stone cold lock of the century of the week that if this is Muslim then refugees are the ones who will suffer.

11-13-2015 , 06:34 PM

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My complete absolute guess based on no actual evidence; it wasn't a refugee. Supposedly coordinated attacks at multiple areas involving explosives and supposedly 6 to 8 attackers in the theater would suggest a lot of time, coordination, and knowledge of the area and the ability to speak French to get all that together. I'm throwing out my guess that it's a group of French citizens who have lived in France a while.

Again just my complete throwing it out there guess, I could be wrong.

11-13-2015 , 06:34 PM

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Video from the soccer game explosions are crazy.

Very sad day.

11-13-2015 , 06:35 PM

All-In Flynn

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please don't be a refugee please don't be a refugee please don't be a refugee

11-13-2015 , 06:38 PM

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I'm going to guess it's home grown.

11-13-2015 , 06:39 PM

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einsteinaint****

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Of course it's jihadi muslims. The only nazi like antihuman ideology widely current in Europe right now is this extremist islam craziness. That the US does atrocious things is no defense of these cretins. Let's call them what they are, a menace to society, and let's bomb them back to the stone age as we ought.

11-13-2015 , 06:39 PM

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Definitely this. Stone cold lock of the century of the week that if this is Muslim then refugees are the ones who will suffer.

Right. I guess I was just specifically refuting the notion that Europe's reaction will be to send guys off to war.

Almost surely that won't be the reactionary thing; it's going to be refugee refugee refugee REFUGEE REFUGEE REFUGEE duck stuff and calls to shutdown the borders to the EU.

Immediately calling for bombing sorties and invasions is exceptionally USA#1. We get to the borders only as a secondary priority.

11-13-2015 , 06:40 PM

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SteelersDMW

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"if" this is muslim?

Uhhh there is a 100% chance it is

11-13-2015 , 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl

It's a bit tinfoily, but if the attackers are figuring the fallout from this into their ideal outcome plan, they may have decided that it's better from their perspective if the attacks are executed by refugees. So they could have planned an attack and shipped in 'guest stars' as refugees to carry it out. Don't rate that as a possibility, just identifying the worst-case scenario.

Agree that outside of something like that, co-ordination of this degree is very unlikely from refugees.

11-13-2015 , 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by MrWookie

Definitely this. Stone cold lock of the century of the week that if this is Muslim then refugees are the ones who will suffer.

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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl

Yeah second generation immigrant or complete outsider seems a lot more likely.

11-13-2015 , 06:43 PM

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ALLTheCookies

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ISIS will say this is linked to Jihadi John imo

11-13-2015 , 06:45 PM

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An attack on France, is an attack on the United States.

11-13-2015 , 06:46 PM

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Of course it's jihadi muslims. The only nazi like antihuman ideology widely current in Europe right now is this extremist islam craziness. That the US does atrocious things is no defense of these cretins. Let's call them what they are, a menace to society, and let's bomb them back to the stone age as we ought.

I hope you're not serious by that. Anders Breivik isn't a unique brand of European as far as ideologies go.

11-13-2015 , 06:47 PM

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Islam and Western Civilization cannot coexist. Every, single, time we are shown that two incompatible cultures cannot occupy the same physical territory without conflict and bloodshed. And yet we deny our own lying eyes and invite death and turmoil.

But hey, at least we aren't racist.

11-13-2015 , 06:49 PM

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Paul D

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Somehow I lived amongst Muslims for a year and they were nothing but pleasant to me.

11-13-2015 , 06:50 PM

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SellerD'or

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Somehow I lived amongst Muslims for a year and they were nothing but pleasant to me.

You should let the families of the dead know this, I'm sure they'll be consoled.

11-13-2015 , 06:50 PM

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I know you think you're some kind of super ubermench #racerealist, probably heroically and bravely posting from a gimmick account rather than whatever your real one is, and it's certainly true this is utterly tragic - but the notion 70 dead bodies suggests cultures are "incompatible" and "cannot occupy the same physical territory without conflict and bloodshed" is ****ing idiocy. Read a history book, you ****ing clown.

11-13-2015 , 06:50 PM

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Muslims blow up/kill lots of people in the East too. And Africa.

Islam isn't compatible with anything, not even itself.

11-13-2015 , 06:50 PM

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suzzer99

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I just ate at my local Middle-Eastern chicken place last night and they didn't kill me or spit on my food or anything. What gives?

11-13-2015 , 06:51 PM

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Yuv

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The band is American. I wonder if that was on purpose.

TV here says at least 60 dead. I imagine these type of terrorists don't hold hostages for long, so I'm afraid those numbers might go up.

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