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Old 05-27-2012, 06:56 PM   #31
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Re: Nationalism: Do You Actually Think America is Better Than Other Countries?

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Also, the observation that the younger generation is a lot less patriotic is definitely true. Obama did a great job picking up the young vote, but McCain was sitting there with a "Country First" campaign theme that fell dead flat with younger voters. Would have been a great approach for a cold war campaign, I guess.
Obama ran on a no wars, end current wars, end drug war, government transparency, end lobbying, cut deficit in half, etc campaign. It is going to be hard to run another one of those, but I am sure he will try.
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Old 05-27-2012, 07:31 PM   #32
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Morality is not intrinsic to any national character. America benefits from living in an extremely placid region of the world. They have no immediate enemies on their borders who can cause them serious harm, and it's easy to be moralistic and righteous when you're in this position of being safe, sated and secure.
This hasn't stopped America from finding enemies
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Old 05-27-2012, 07:58 PM   #33
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Re: Nationalism: Do You Actually Think America is Better Than Other Countries?

You know, I just got a ****ing steak, from a 4 star steakhouse delivered to my door by this nice young man employed by a company called thefastfooddude.com.

Basically the way this service works is you pay these guys to bring you fast food.

That's how it started. How much more American can it get than paying a 3rd party source to go to McDonalds and buy you a Big Mac and bring it to your door because it's midnight and you're drunk/stoned?

Now it's grown, you can get steak/sushi/seafood, along with all your fast food favorites.

Delivered to your door, by college kids.

That, my friends, is why I love America.

Now excuse me while I enjoy my Ruth's Chris Filet Minion, cooked to a perfect Medium Rare, with a wonderful baked potato in front of my 72" 3DTV as I enjoy the best of NASCAR in HD. Then I'm going to do a few shots of JD, and smoke my finely cultivated reefer.

Enjoy your fascism guys. I'm drinking in FreedomLand tonight.
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Old 05-27-2012, 08:02 PM   #34
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^Sounds awesome, Enjoy!
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Old 05-27-2012, 08:13 PM   #35
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I have no emotional attachment to the arbitrarily defined land mass that my parents happened to be on when I was born. I didn't volunteer to be here, and as such, I have no moral duties or obligations to serve the interests of those who have declared themselves in charge of this arbitrarily defined land mass.
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Old 05-27-2012, 08:14 PM   #36
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You know, I just got a ****ing steak, from a 4 star steakhouse delivered to my door by this nice young man employed by a company called thefastfooddude.com.

Basically the way this service works is you pay these guys to bring you fast food.

That's how it started. How much more American can it get than paying a 3rd party source to go to McDonalds and buy you a Big Mac and bring it to your door because it's midnight and you're drunk/stoned?

Now it's grown, you can get steak/sushi/seafood, along with all your fast food favorites.

Delivered to your door, by college kids.

That, my friends, is why I love America.

Now excuse me while I enjoy my Ruth's Chris Filet Minion, cooked to a perfect Medium Rare, with a wonderful baked potato in front of my 72" 3DTV as I enjoy the best of NASCAR in HD. Then I'm going to do a few shots of JD, and smoke my finely cultivated reefer.

Enjoy your fascism guys. I'm drinking in FreedomLand tonight.
I feel like a gun or 4 should be included in here somewhere

also Ruth's Chris..... WP
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Old 05-27-2012, 08:21 PM   #37
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Re: Nationalism: Do You Actually Think America is Better Than Other Countries?

ITT we learn that Ruth's Chris does takeout.
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Old 05-27-2012, 08:28 PM   #38
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Re: Nationalism: Do You Actually Think America is Better Than Other Countries?

Not exactly. These guys essentially go in, order, then immediately request it boxed.
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Yeah there is a service like that serves downtown Seattle. I thought you were in a more rural area DBJ?
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Surely America is getting more nationalistic. From what little I know it seems like soldiers returning from Vietnam were getting a very hard time. These days, your troops seem to be more or less demigods. Dixie chicks etc.

Obeying authority/rich ppl has more or less replaced rule of law. If you don't support whatever ******* is in charge, be it a president, banker, police, means you are un-American which seems to be even worse than being a communist. Anybody with a job seems to be untouchable. I don't really know how bad this has been historically (say 1900-) though, perhaps it was even worse. How many % of the population wants Obama to ***** just (ok, it's because he's black) because they think he was born outside of the USA?

American journalism seems like an enormous joke these days. MSM media mostly relays whatever the US gov wants. The whole Iraq thing was crazy and now watching it all over again w/ Iran is insane. Perhaps things have changed for the better now that cable news is here.
I find it ironic that you seem to get all of your impressions of american attitudes from "MSM media" and then at the same time point out that the "MSM media" mostly relays whatever the US govt wants it to, which is naturally going to be inaccurate.

So which is it? Are your conclusions about american nationalism reasonable because the MSM media relays accurate portrayals of american attitudes (towards military veterans, authority figures, rule of law, etc) or does the MSM relay a distorted portrayal of american attitudes at the behest of the US govt?
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Old 05-27-2012, 08:41 PM   #41
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Re: Nationalism: Do You Actually Think America is Better Than Other Countries?

Well, I do but it's not that rural.

The great thing about Atlanta is you can find little patches of "rural" that's only ~30 miles outside of the city.

I give these guys a good amount of business, particularly with execs that I can talk into ordering in rather than going out.
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dbl,

wtf does that gif illustrate? It's way too ****ing small for anyone to be able to read the text which indicates what the colors mean.
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Old 05-27-2012, 08:50 PM   #43
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You know, I just got a ****ing steak, from a 4 star steakhouse delivered to my door by this nice young man employed by a company called thefastfooddude.com.

Basically the way this service works is you pay these guys to bring you fast food.

That's how it started. How much more American can it get than paying a 3rd party source to go to McDonalds and buy you a Big Mac and bring it to your door because it's midnight and you're drunk/stoned?

Now it's grown, you can get steak/sushi/seafood, along with all your fast food favorites.

Delivered to your door, by college kids.

That, my friends, is why I love America.

Now excuse me while I enjoy my Ruth's Chris Filet Minion, cooked to a perfect Medium Rare, with a wonderful baked potato in front of my 72" 3DTV as I enjoy the best of NASCAR in HD. Then I'm going to do a few shots of JD, and smoke my finely cultivated reefer.

Enjoy your fascism guys. I'm drinking in FreedomLand tonight.
I lol'ed. Wp.
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Old 05-27-2012, 08:51 PM   #44
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Re: Nationalism: Do You Actually Think America is Better Than Other Countries?

food snobs severely underrate ruths chris
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Old 05-27-2012, 09:11 PM   #45
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