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06-01-2012, 10:29 AM
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centurion
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: At home
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Re: Nationalism: Do You Actually Think America is Better Than Other Countries?
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Originally Posted by wil318466
Then explain why the most ambitious, successful people on the planet want to come here?
I have no desire to move to China, Britain, Norway or Canada. Pick any place on the planet, and I'd want to be in America over it. This isn't something that is up for debate, it's a slam dunk.
Edit : The US isn't simply an important country. It's isn't a superpower, or a hyperpower. It's easily, and I mean by far, the most powerful country in the history of human civilization. Think about that for a second - of all the empires in the history of the world, America surpasses all of them, and easily.
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Personal preferences ftw.
America is one of the last places on earth I would like to move to. Give me France, Germany, Netherlands, UK, Sweden, Finland, Denmark, New Zealand etc any day.
No country is perfect, including America. Everyone makes their own choice for their own reasons, that's why just as many people choose other countries to move to. Hell, we have tens of thousands moving here to the UK every year, and we're just a tiny smear in the North Sea.
To each his own.
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06-01-2012, 10:57 AM
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#227
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Football is freedom
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Re: Nationalism: Do You Actually Think America is Better Than Other Countries?
Lol there were empires that lasted for 1000 of years and people ITT are saying that America is better and more powerfull than them , altho America has been somehow "important" country in the world only for the last 100 years..... and the tide is already changing.
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06-01-2012, 11:42 AM
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#228
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 5,995
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Re: Nationalism: Do You Actually Think America is Better Than Other Countries?
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Originally Posted by Andz
Lol there were empires that lasted for 1000 of years and people ITT are saying that America is better and more powerfull than them , altho America has been somehow "important" country in the world only for the last 100 years..... and the tide is already changing.
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As far as culture, technology, military, political, economic, intellectual metrics are considered?
Not even close. Who else had world-wide influence even close to the US right now? Largest empire was Britain, largest land empire was the Mongols, the Romans kicked butt for a long time, but I'd argue those empire didn't touch every part of the planet (Britain was close).
Granted, just from technology the world is a very different place than it was just 50 years ago, much less 500.
What continent on earth does the US not have vast influence on right now? (That the US actually wants to be part of). Just think of the influence in the middle east - and we're on the opposite side of the planet.
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06-01-2012, 12:53 PM
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#229
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centurion
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 151
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Re: Nationalism: Do You Actually Think America is Better Than Other Countries?
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be it a president, banker, police, means you are un-American which seems to be even worse than being a communist.
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Why being a communist in US is so bad? Problems with China? trollface.jpg
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06-01-2012, 01:51 PM
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#230
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grinder
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 596
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wil318466
Then explain why the most ambitious, successful people on the planet want to come here?
I have no desire to move to China, Britain, Norway or Canada. Pick any place on the planet, and I'd want to be in America over it. This isn't something that is up for debate, it's a slam dunk.
Edit : The US isn't simply an important country. It's isn't a superpower, or a hyperpower. It's easily, and I mean by far, the most powerful country in the history of human civilization. Think about that for a second - of all the empires in the history of the world, America surpasses all of them, and easily.
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That the usa is a hyperpower makes it the most desirable for you why? Small penis syndrome?
It might come as a shock to you, but the world isnt black and white. The us is leading in some health care procedures, other countries in others. Same goes for other technologies. Rich saudis go to german hospitals too, as do americans.
And seriously, who never won the (real) football worldcup can't consider themselves an important country.
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06-01-2012, 02:25 PM
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#231
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 15,667
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Re: Nationalism: Do You Actually Think America is Better Than Other Countries?
The haters seem rather peeved today.
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06-01-2012, 03:26 PM
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adept
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 1,115
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Re: Nationalism: Do You Actually Think America is Better Than Other Countries?
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Originally Posted by dessin d'enfant
Uhhh....that one.
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If that is true, why can't the locals do those jobs?
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06-01-2012, 03:30 PM
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#233
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adept
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 1,115
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Re: Nationalism: Do You Actually Think America is Better Than Other Countries?
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Originally Posted by wil318466
Then explain why the most ambitious, successful people on the planet want to come here?
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London.
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Originally Posted by wil318466
I have no desire to move to China, Britain, Norway or Canada. Pick any place on the planet, and I'd want to be in America over it. This isn't something that is up for debate, it's a slam dunk.
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Enjoy!
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Originally Posted by wil318466
Edit : The US isn't simply an important country. It's isn't a superpower, or a hyperpower. It's easily, and I mean by far, the most powerful country in the history of human civilization. Think about that for a second - of all the empires in the history of the world, America surpasses all of them, and easily.
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Clearly, the present global empire is likely to be the furthest reaching and most powerful. As will the next one. Duh!
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06-01-2012, 04:28 PM
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 5,995
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Re: Nationalism: Do You Actually Think America is Better Than Other Countries?
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Originally Posted by swighey
London.
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The US also has 3 in the top 10 cities in the world, NY, LA, Chicago. While London is itself a great city, I'd argue the US gets much more in talent than Britain.
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06-01-2012, 05:05 PM
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#235
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 15,667
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Re: Nationalism: Do You Actually Think America is Better Than Other Countries?
Lol Londonians. This isn't about nice places to live; this is about #1. New Yorker >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Londonian USA #1.
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06-01-2012, 05:11 PM
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old hand
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: NYC
Posts: 1,547
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Re: Nationalism: Do You Actually Think America is Better Than Other Countries?
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Originally Posted by 2/325Falcon
Lol Londonians. This isn't about nice places to live; this is about #1. New Yorker >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Londonian USA #1.
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Absolutely this. The primary problem with this thread is people are conflating "greatest" with "best place to live" or "most pleasant" or whatever. Incorrect. That's like saying the Padres are the greatest baseball franchise because you can get Green Flash IPA at the stadium. Bull****, the Yankees are the greatest team in baseball because they kick ass, in and out, decade after decade and everyone knows it. And that's why folks call the the US the greatest country in a way you don't see directed elsewhere (save maybe LOLChina).
That's not to say that life in Denmark or Norway or Andorra isn't just Jim-dandy wonderful. I'm sure it is. And I'm sure the people there are just great, friendly, salt and the earth sorts and all that. But that doesn't change the fact that the US eats countries like that for breakfast.
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06-01-2012, 06:14 PM
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grinder
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 596
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Originally Posted by metaname2
But that doesn't change the fact that the US eats countries like that for breakfast.
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This.
US chicks are also hotter because they eat european girls for breakfast.
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06-01-2012, 07:07 PM
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#238
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: The dark abyss of KC sports
Posts: 7,684
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Re: Nationalism: Do You Actually Think America is Better Than Other Countries?
Europe is kind of broad
generally i agree cuz obv we are number one at being fat but girls in the U.K. are pretty disgusting on average frankly and in everywhere in Europe their teeth are noticeably worse than people in the states
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06-01-2012, 07:19 PM
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#239
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grinder
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 596
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I agree about the uk part. But then the uk isnt really european.
I disagree about the teeth. Theeth might not be bleached to the same extend, but that's about it.
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06-01-2012, 07:24 PM
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grinder
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 604
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Re: Nationalism: Do You Actually Think America is Better Than Other Countries?
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Originally Posted by mutigers5591
Europe is kind of broad
generally i agree cuz obv we are number one at being fat but girls in the U.K. are pretty disgusting on average frankly and in everywhere in Europe their teeth are noticeably worse than people in the states
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I deal with customers from all over the world face to face and women from Eastern Europe are the best looking in the world. American women aren't special. American TV shows chose really good looking American girls to represent them, but the average American girl are no better looking than western European girls.
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