Yes the found the bad guys gun as well as the good guys gun. Even if there was no gun, 2 on 1 against a 73 year old still justifies lethal force.

So you agree that it is impossible when selling a gun to know whether you are selling to a good guy or bad guy, right? Mayhap we should do more to determine something like that before we offer them a license to kill

I concur I'm all for stricter purchasing requirements, I'm just not for taking away my way to defend myself.

Fair enough, lets talk restrictions then.

Over 50 deaths by toddlers shooting guns last year. How do we prevent this?

That's a parental issue, I outlined a simple solution that I use earlier.

I would be OK with a mandatory psych eval every x number of years.

Lol you support piss boy mctinyhands

Do you even live in the U.S.? Adults can discuss things even while having opposing view points.

Be better if it was Simba.

I'll eave you to your circle jerk then.

I'll hang my hat on the Constitution and supreme Court rulings while retaining the ability to defend myself and my family.

I believe the Swiss laws were discussed pretty comprehensively back about 300 pages ago or so, with input from an actual Swiss person. Turns out the reality on the ground is nothing like what the NRA-types want it to be and most Swiss think mandatory rifles in the home is a pretty dumb idea. Plus it seems like the only thing aside from target practice any of the weapons have been used for is for their owners to use to commit suicide. Other than that they're pretty much just doorstops.

The only thing Fuluck loved more than his bitchin' Camaro was his totally sweet gun he kept tucked in his waistband. It was totally sweet and totally real, definitely not just something he saw in Soldier of Fortune. He'd show it to you except its classified and he's on Seal Team Six but just on leave right now and if he showed you he'd have to kill you.

He walked into Walmart and can you believe it some guy was all like Seasons Greetings. Fuluck knew from hours of studying Infowars youtubes that this was no mentally deranged lone wolf. No this guy was ISIS and probably a suicide bomber. He knew it was about to go down so he did a super awesome ninja roll.

BAM sweet triple tap right between the eyes. Just like Chris Kyle would have done except that one time he didn't. Some babe with a guy who was wearing a Bernie t-shirt was totally checking him out. She was alright looking but not nearly as hot as his supermodel girlfriend who worked in Canada all but two days a year and bought him that anime pillow because she wanted him to have something to remember her.

Dino,

But why aren't they being used for a large amount of homicides? Why aren't so many toddlers shooting people?

lol

Everybody knows triple tap is overkill and hard to control, double tap is all that's needed.

'cause they ain't got no bullets.

guns aren't much good without them.

Why aint they got no bullets?

Are there no bad parents in Europe?

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It's almost as if there isn't a 1000-page thread for you to read on this topic and many others.

Besides, what's your point in even bringing up the question on Switzerland? That having a military weapon in every home is somehow a good thing, or do you think it's somehow connected to also making good chocolate?

Doesn't really explain the three-round burst setting on certain selective-fire service weapons.

So I guess that's why I said 'pretty much only in the hands of the military'.

Because you couldn't possibly be arguing that in spite of the lengthy approval process and extra licensing requirements involved in letting you purchase an automatic weapon that you in fact were still easily able to do so, could you? Why that would mean that even if we created more rigorous requirements to get guns PEOPLE WOULD STILL BE ABLE TO BUY THEM, and thus their rights would not be infringed. Gosh imagine that!

Progress at last!

There is no debate here.

Other than the wait, and slightly more paperwork, there really is nothing preventing anyone legally able to purchase a firearm from purchasing a firearm capable of automatic fire, besides the biggest barrier of entry: cost.

With the introduction of the Hearing Protection Act, there'll hopefully be one less item on the NFA list for us to have to deal with.

Of course there will be more suicide by firearm in countries with a larger number of firearms.

And yet in your graph, with good ol Japan and South Korea wayyy to the right and such little bars...well South Korea is the NUMBER TWO country for suicide by capita in the world! Japan is 17th!

Twice as many people kill themselves in Japan than in Switzerland. Three times as many people kill themselves in South Korea than in Switzerland.

And what about homicide? Well Japan does better than the Swiss (.5) at .3 /100k, but it looks like South Korea, not so much at .7 / 100k.

Why are both the suicide and the homicide rates worse in South Korea than in Switzerland, when Switzerland is full of guns and SK is devoid of them? I mean there is literally 40 times as many guns in Switzerland than SK, where there is pretty much no private firearm ownership.

I am genuinely impressed that you looked at those two graphs and somehow convinced yourself they support the gun nuts.