This. It's simply a "mental health issue period" only if taking guns out of the equation is unacceptable. Then ya, I guess society may as well work on what they can if the real (and real obvious) issue is off limits.

So due to all the gun snatching talk, I felt the need to go get a totally irrational gun.

So I did.

Just for the LULz, I'm curious if you'd mind amusing us by telling us how you envision the process for obtaining that gun to go.

Any possible chance you can logically show that you're a huge fan of privacy from government while maintaining your desire for millions and millions of US citizens to turn over their medical histories to the government?

Tell that to the children yesterday. Oh ya, cars, swimming pools, and ladders aren't explicitly designed to cause harm.

Get back to me when paperweights kill entire classrooms full of students about once a year.

Gun nuts need to be careful this time around, people like me who dont own guns are generally pretty sympathetic towards the 2nd amendment and gun ownership on general principle. But a lot of folks are starting to wonder if we really should have this happening every 2 months, and having gun nuts make super callous remarks is not making you all any friends.

I know gun folks are feeling rightfully smug because they know having all the super small population density states in their corner means it would be super hard to amend the constitution even if eventually 85% of the population want that, but you all are not helping your cause at all in times like these.

highlight away... and we still have cars and sedatives because their utility completely outweighs the risk.

ahh **** it im supposed to be out of her you kids have fun

Who called out the gun nuts?

that should only be reserved for anti-gun fearmongers?

The NRA?

not that I'm willing to try because im not a psyco but this would be trivially easy to do.

yeah I know... but being a completely irrational lunatic who can't comprehend logic, reason, utility, economics, morality, natural rights, or history doesn't win you any fans either.

Again its not smugness, its outright fear that ignorant assclowns are about to start civil war II.

low key, pvn, etc. have been here all along, they just called in backup

good night thread

Its good to hear there seems to be at least some common ground here. Too many people IIT are like "he wants to ban all guns, thats ******ed" when pretty much nobody is saying that or "he wants to give guns to everyone" when pretty much nobody is saying that (except that tsao guy). I'm not saying goofy's idea of adopting similar laws to japan is the perfect solution, but i do agree it seems like a solid starting point and has some good ideas in it. It prob wont satisfy the extreme pro-gun people or the extreme anti gun people but it seems like it has the potential to be a solution most people would be OK with.

Could I get a quick raise of hands on the number of people willing to intervene if witnessing a paper weight attack vs. a shooting?

Try not to snap pls.

I'd be more likely to intervene in a gun attack than a paperweight attack.

In 30 years once you can't have all of your sweet metallic penile prosthesis to wave around anymore, just remember its comments like this that swayed public opinion against you.

cool - adults with above average intelligence that less than 3 guns wonder why others with above average intelligence don't want idiots having guns

cosigned.


the answer to the gun problem. more guns.

Competency isn't what he's arguing either. In Japan i'm sure they make it tough to get powder and primers and most other possible tools for a mass killing spree as well. It's the easy availability of those tools in the US that's part of the problem. You call it freedom, I call it being reckless.

This is a fact. If she had a gun she would have guaranteed to take him out. Absolutely no chance she's still dead. It's a fact that she absolutely would have outshot the shooter and saved all the kids.

Well thought out post by taso.

tsao's insistence on "armed teacher = no spree" is one of the lulziest things in this thread

Yeah I mean I don't know the exact situation that happened at the school, but unless you frequently practice shooting, isnt it rather difficult to hit something at more than like 25 feet away with handgun? (Especially if your a school teacher just wondering what that noise is in the hall and it turns out to be an experienced gun user shooting an assault rifle at you).

This is the only story I've read about the mom so far. She very well may be a "gun nut" but what in this particular story backs that label IYO?