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08-10-2016 , 01:28 PM

#24001

Jiggymike

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73 year old killed in Florida during shoot-don't shoot exercise with police. Another unavoidable shooting fatality.

08-10-2016 , 02:36 PM

#24002

simplicitus

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Literally killed a grandmother in a shoot-don't shoot exercise. That's a low pass. It's so mind blowing I have to laugh despite the tragedy.

08-11-2016 , 01:34 AM

#24003

batair

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dereds

Talking of playing with guns isn't a great advertisement for your introduction to them

Playing with a bb gun taught me a lot about handling guns. Think if i didn't have that introduction to them i would of been worse off comfort and safety wise when i got to the real ones. Just saying, you made a fair point.

08-11-2016 , 03:52 AM

#24004

tomdemaine

Just tries harder

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Quote:

Originally Posted by steve1238

Actually I'm the only one not whining or acting like a petulant child whose toys have been taken away.

We've all seen a sporting event involving a player on the losing team that can't stop running his mouth despite no chance of winning right? That's you itt. Look at the irl scoreboard.

If you dislike guns so much you should probably do something other than complain on 2+2.

Jesus. 'We've got 10,000 dead kids and you've got 0 grabbed guns. Scoreboard bro!'

08-11-2016 , 04:12 AM

#24005

FlyWf

It's the other way

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Quote:

Originally Posted by steve1238

Actually I'm the only one not whining or acting like a petulant child whose toys have been taken away.

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We've all seen a sporting event involving a player on the losing team that can't stop running his mouth despite no chance of winning right? That's you itt. Look at the irl scoreboard.

Are you spiking the football on an innocent child getting shot because of gun culture?

You ain't wrong, I mean, that kid sure is dead. And widdle stevey still has all his guns.

But, you know, maybe not the classy play?

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If you dislike guns so much you should probably do something other than complain on 2+2.

I don't dislike guns. I dislike you.

08-11-2016 , 04:13 AM

#24006

FlyWf

It's the other way

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Quote:

Originally Posted by insidemanpoker

No one wants to take a stab at this?

LOL this dude is begging other people to do his homework for him because he doesn't know how to do math.

08-11-2016 , 11:14 AM

#24007

steve1238

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Originally Posted by FlyWf

LOL bro your posts are public. We can read them. So two important things here.

1) In this analogy, the "toy who has been taken away" who we are whining about is the life of an innocent ****ing child.

2) You are whining, constantly, because of fears we might take your toys away! Jesus Christ.

Are you spiking the football on an innocent child getting shot because of gun culture?

You ain't wrong, I mean, that kid sure is dead. And widdle stevey still has all his guns.

But, you know, maybe not the classy play?

I don't dislike guns. I dislike you.

I feel bad for you. Not much-but a little.

08-16-2016 , 02:53 AM

#24008

formula72

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Quote:

Originally Posted by miajag

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...5b1_story.html

Literally one (1) gun death last year in Japan, a country of 127 million people. Bans totally don't work though!

I'm sure a ban here would work splendid! This issue is, there are gun owners ITT calling for stricter gun laws that wouldn't affect them and most gun owners even the slightest bit. Few of which give a **** about what going on in Japan.

08-16-2016 , 08:48 AM

#24009

master3004

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Originally Posted by formula72

What solutions being offered do you feel wouldn't be effective?

08-26-2016 , 01:35 AM

#24010

dinopoker

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Well there was a mass shooting in Toronto earlier today, although since Canada has actual gun laws the shooter used a crossbow and only three people were killed. Too bad we're not free like the US, he could've killed 30 or 40.

08-26-2016 , 02:37 AM

#24011

psithurism

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Originally Posted by dinopoker

Too bad we're not free like the US, he could've killed 30 or 40.

Lets be adults, 50 is more than fair.

08-31-2016 , 12:19 PM

#24012

Huehuecoyotl

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Lawl

08-31-2016 , 12:31 PM

#24013

Trolly McTrollson

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Volunteering to participate in a "shoot / no-shoot" police exercise sounds like the biggest negative freeroll ever.

08-31-2016 , 12:52 PM

#24014

campfirewest

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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl

Lawl

Lol

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The bullet struck a wall and fortunately no one was hit in the crowded room.

I was surprised the old dude put up such a good fight. This explains it.

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Skidmore is reportedly a retired prison guard and an ex-Marine.

At the place my wife works at they had an incident with their security guards back in the 70's (long before she worked there). Back then their security guards were armed. One of them spotted an intruder one night and opened fire. It turned out there was no intruder and he shot a garbage can. After that they decided no more guns for the security guards.

08-31-2016 , 01:44 PM

#24015

Huehuecoyotl

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Poor tracing center, hamstrung by Congress because an efficient government means black helicopters coming for our freedom.

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That's been a federal law, thanks to the NRA, since 1986: No searchable database of America's gun owners. So people here have to use paper, sort through enormous stacks of forms and record books that gun stores are required to keep and to eventually turn over to the feds when requested. It's kind of like a library in the old days—but without the card catalog. They can use pictures of paper, like microfilm (they recently got the go-ahead to convert the microfilm to PDFs), as long as the pictures of paper are not searchable. You have to flip through and read. No searching by gun owner. No searching by name.

It's kind of amazing we can find out who bought a gun at all.

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Just figure every crime you ever watched endless horrifying footage of on TV involved somebody here in Martinsburg searching through a rat's nest of records and then experiencing a moment of jubilance upon seeing that, yes, this is it, here is the 4473 that belongs to that lunatic. (Or his mother. Or his uncle. Or the pawnshop dealer who sold it to someone else. Tracing the gun beyond the initial point of purchase is on the cops.)

This is the maddening, inefficient way gun tracing works, and there is no effort afoot to make it work any better. For all the talking we do about imposing new limits on assault weapons, or stronger background checks, nobody talks about fixing the way we keep track—or don't keep track—of where all the guns are.

http://www.gq.com/story/inside-feder...-too-many-guns

08-31-2016 , 01:47 PM

#24016

codemanz5

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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl

Lawl

I don't know why, but I laughed at this video. Flame away.

08-31-2016 , 09:19 PM

#24017

steve1238

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Photography confirmed not a crime. However attacking someone with a gun confirmed also not smart.

08-31-2016 , 09:53 PM

#24018

gobbo

Trust the fat man.

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Punishable by death.

08-31-2016 , 10:23 PM

#24019

steve1238

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Originally Posted by gobbo

Punishable by death.

Generally someone carrying a gun in plain sight will try to shoot you if you attack them. Not unlike a rattler shaking its tail. If you attack them anyway, well, natural selection still works.

09-01-2016 , 10:03 AM

#24020

Imaginary F(r)iend

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Quote:

Originally Posted by steve1238

Generally someone carrying a gun in plain sight will try to shoot you if you attack them. Not unlike a rattler shaking its tail. If you attack them anyway, well, natural selection still works.

...

Is there no legal concept of "excessive force" in the US?

Your way of thinking is actually scary and probably leads to unnecessary deaths and a violent society.

09-01-2016 , 10:12 AM

#24021

Trolly McTrollson

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Seems like an appropriate use of force to me. Not sure what you people expect the guard to do in that situation.

09-01-2016 , 10:52 AM

#24022

steve1238

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Originally Posted by Imaginary F(r)iend

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Is there no legal concept of "excessive force" in the US?

Your way of thinking is actually scary and probably leads to unnecessary deaths and a violent society.

My way of thinking?

Don't attack someone with a gun is a bizarre concept to you?

09-01-2016 , 01:04 PM

#24023

Westley

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Surely if you attack someone who's carrying a gun you have the advantage and a better chance of getting to it 1st?

It's not like they're going to stand 20feet away and announce they plan to attack you?

09-01-2016 , 02:13 PM

#24024

campfirewest

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Originally Posted by Westley

There might be an advantage in doing that if you plan to get the gun and murder the person. But it you're doing that why not just bring your own?

If the plan is just to punch someone then its higher ev to pick someone who doesn't have a gun.