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Polls you guys think are accurate peg support at around 76%, +/- 6%. I offer that as line. Seems pretty straightforward.

I'll tell you what. I'll give you guys the best of it and offer it up at 75%. If the polls are accurate this is just free money for you.

01-29-2014 , 12:42 AM

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FlyWf

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Originally Posted by FlyWf

The good ole' DVaut rule about right wingers only being willing to go so far with unskewing the polls in full effect

YB is willing to go all the way to 5% higher than a poll that he believes overstates support because of something something Hispanics.

01-29-2014 , 08:49 AM

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Your Boss

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Quote:

Originally Posted by FlyWf

YB is willing to go all the way to 5% higher than a poll that he believes overstates support because of something something Hispanics.

And Fly is unwilling to take a bet at a line that's 7 points lower than a poll he thinks is accurate because....???

01-29-2014 , 10:33 AM

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Namath12

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Originally Posted by spanktehbadwookie

A bigger picture question..... As a partisan issue is marijuana growing to become a wedge, a stake, or a platform with enough room to stand upon?

I've seen some partisan cracks in even in Alabama's GOP supermajority. And well we are right next to Florida, lol. Another good spot to divorce from the moral majority if they cling to prohibition. At this point agreeing with legal marijuana is the same as agreeing with Obama and we have seen how far that goes with the base.

I wouldn't start stocking up on bongs in AL just yet br0. AL still can't even get a lottery instituted ffs

01-29-2014 , 07:22 PM

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FlyWf

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Originally Posted by Your Boss

And Fly is unwilling to take a bet at a line that's 7 points lower than a poll he thinks is accurate because....???

The existence of the other poll makes me believe than the 82% is high. Without more information I can't determine which poll is more likely to be accurate.

You allegedly have that more information. Something something Hispanics.

01-30-2014 , 10:58 AM

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So we are back to 76% being the most likely support level based on polls FlyWF trusts, and yet......?

If the polls are accurate, and the support is between 70-82%, I'm giving you the best of it by offering 75% as the line. What a generous guy I am! Offering you an even money bet while giving you all the upside in the polling.

This is literally free money for you, is it not? Something something Hispanics is completely irrelevant if you trust the polling data, DUCY?

01-30-2014 , 11:03 AM

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DonkJr

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Your Boss, are you ******ed or are you just trolling at this point?

01-30-2014 , 12:46 PM

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Your Boss

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Must be ******ed. This seems pretty straightforward. I set a line based on data Fly and Philllllll like, therefore I'm trolling.

Let's try it in another context. The line for the SB is between DEN -1 and DEN -3 depending on the book. Fly and Phill trust the bookmakers and believe that -2 is an accurate representation of the true line. I, being the generous person I am, offer them SEA +2.5. But something something Denver, must be trolling.

01-30-2014 , 05:41 PM

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absherrj

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Here is a link that contains the exact wording of the purposed amendment.

http://www.mynews13.com/content/news...marijuana.html

03-11-2014 , 08:43 PM

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longmissedblind

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I had no idea State House Committee Meetings could be so.... Interesting!

[IMG]http://s15.************/bndxvar2z/Rep_Edwards2.png[/IMG]

ftw

03-11-2014 , 08:53 PM

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longmissedblind

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So, CBD is about to be legal

Medicinal will prolly pass too

03-12-2014 , 01:16 PM

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Namath12

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One time!

04-12-2014 , 07:30 PM

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longmissedblind

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Well they appropriated a Mil to a state research facility to track the effects of CBD on patients. They're angling the rules to add barrier after barrier for your average gardener, including making the doctor who "oversees" the administration of CBD responsible for the grower/distributor. It's all a mess. It's almost as though the government is only there to secure monopolies for a select few rather than having multiple suppliers of CBD to keep the price down

04-13-2014 , 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by absherrj

News released today. How to registered Florida voters feel about it?

http://miami.cbslocal.com/2014/01/15...claim-victory/

There is a very strong chance the amendment will pass. Last I heard it was polling at like 75%. There is a decent amount of time to go yet, however.

04-13-2014 , 07:32 PM

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"Hispanics don't like weed" may be some bull**** anecdotal evidence, but it's not unreasonable to think that a polling average with a grand total of two polls may overstate actual support.

There's more evidence we can use, such as results from other states. For instance, in 2008, a ballot initiative in Michigan legalised medicinal marijuana with 60% of the vote. There's been a substantial nationwide pro-weed shift since then, but Florida is more Republican and older. Overall, I'd probably put the over/under at a bit under 70%.

Regardless if it's truly at 65% or 85%, that still makes it extremely likely to pass.

04-14-2014 , 10:46 AM

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longmissedblind

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^^ that

I put it around the same as all those ballot initiatives put forth by the legislature in O'12. 65% is prolly safe, but I'd bet over.

04-14-2014 , 10:53 AM

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I believe that things like gambling and MM tend to have results less favorable than the polls.

04-17-2014 , 03:30 PM

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V0dkanockers

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Originally Posted by [Phill]

Medical weed places make so much cash they literally don't know what to do with it. That cash will negate any tea bag hypocrisy can that floods the state.

The problem with owning a weed store is the cash. Mainly since it is still illegal per federal law banks want no part of it, at least until a month or 2 ago. And even if those banks can take deposits some will be hesitant to due to the perceived stigma of it. I think it would be awesome to have that problem though. I would go all Scrooge McDuck and go swimming every night in my vault. And as the late Mr. Tosh always said, "Legalize it!".

04-30-2014 , 04:44 PM

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absherrj

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Florida Senate passes a bill that allows for the "Charlotte's Web Strain" of marijuana to be sold in Florida. It now goes to the House to be voted on. If it passes the house then Governor Rick Scott is given the opportunity to approve or veto the bill.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/the-/f...b_5237545.html

05-02-2014 , 03:36 PM

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http://www.newsherald.com/news/gover....314130?page=0

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The bill passed the Senate 30-9 Friday, a day after the House supported it 111-7. Gov. Rick Scott has said he'll sign it.
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The state would maintain a registry of eligible patients. The marijuana can't be smoked and would be converted into an oil. Only four dispensaries would be allowed in the state, and they would be highly regulated. And only nurseries that have existed in the state for 30 years could grow it, a provision that concerned lawmakers because it would severely limit the number of potential growers.

Sounds pretty limited, but progress is progress.

06-12-2014 , 12:43 PM

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Look who is pal'n around with prohibitionists...

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/...0EM2N720140611

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Proponents of the referendum got a head start with Orlando personal injury attorney John Morgan providing most of the $5 million spent so far by People United for Medical Marijuana, though much of that was devoted to gathering and validating voter petitions and defending the ballot language in court.

Deep-pocketed Republicans have since jumped into the battle. The Drug Free Florida campaign, which opposes the amendment, has raised $2.7 million, including a $2.5 million contribution from Las Vegas casino magnate Sheldon Adelson, a major Republican donor.

This week, the non-partisan Florida Sheriffs Association began a separate "educational campaign" against the amendment.

06-12-2014 , 12:56 PM

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The **** would Sheldon Adelson care about this issue?

06-12-2014 , 01:08 PM

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Also gotta shout at Debbie Wasserman Schultz for being a bad drug war politician, voted no on the house DEA defunding amendment.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/0...n_5481549.html

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Wasserman Schultz drew their ire by expressing concern over a November ballot initiative in Florida on permitting medical marijuana. She also voted against legislation in Congress to restrain the U.S. Department of Justice from enforcing laws against medical marijuana in states where it has been legalized.

Political attack ads have been purchased by the advocacy group Americans for Safe Access (ASA), which has vowed to run ads until the November congressional elections against lawmakers who vote against pro-medical marijuana legislation, the group's spokesman Sean Bartlett said.

In addition, John Morgan, an Orlando-based personal injury lawyer and one of the state's major Democratic donors, said he was withdrawing his support of Wasserman Schultz, one of the most visible faces in the party.

"There are just core issues in 2014 and one of those is medical marijuana," said Morgan, who largely financed the campaign to get the medical marijuana measure on the Florida ballot.

#tragicdeathofthedemocratprohibitionist

06-12-2014 , 01:19 PM

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Curious to know how much Big Pharma cash was on the line for Wasserman Schultz to make that play.

06-12-2014 , 02:03 PM

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The latest update is out of the oppositions corner. Current Governor Rick Scott who stands against legalizing medicinal marijuana in Florida has found funding from none other than the billionaire, Venetian Casino Owner, and opponent of online gaming Sheldon Addelson. Sheldon Addelson has reportedly recently given over 2 Million in cash to the "Vote No on 2" group that is educating Florida on why the amendment should not be passed.

I believe Sheldon Addelson's interest in Florida and in the Governor's favor is in the possibility of opening the first non Seminole affiliated full service casino property in Miami.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/0...p_ref=politics

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-0...expansion.html

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