Men and their deteriorating moral and family values.

As members of Western democratic nation, we have witnessed a marked deterioration in morality and family values.

Children start at an early age to sample the pleasures life offers them in the world of drugs, sex, autonomy and abuse of the safety nets that we as parents have put in place for them.

They do these things because they see us, their parents, doing the same thing. We are reaping what we are sowing. It is impossible to keep our abusive adult activities from passing down to our children. They know all our little secrets and tricks and will continue to emulate us.

Over time, looking at parents and our interaction with our children; especially today; the internet and other technologies have drastically reduced the parent child interaction. It is obvious to anyone with good judgement; collectively our morals and ethics have declined along with our family values.

Proof of this lies in how we allow our children to dress and act.

We are basically allowing our children, male and female, to look and act like skanks and whores.

We are allowing or male children to run amuck and act like irresponsible bull studs with no responsibility for their illegitimate children. We men also facilitate the rampant drug us, both legal and illegal.

Both men and women are to blame. Men, as the institutionally sanctioned heads of the family; must carry more blame. The world is not witnessing men stepping up to this responsibility. You, as a man are not walking your talk.

As men, if we are to call ourselves true men, should consider doing so. Perhaps we can stop acting like spoiled children ourselves and start giving our children a good example.

Women will also have to stop looking like and teaching their daughters to look like skanks and whores. We must stop teaching our children to idolize certain questionable entertainers who will do nothing but ensure a next generation of skanks and whores.

Do you agree?

Regards
DL

P S. Morality has a price. To increase ours will take wealth. Are our children worth it to us?

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I love how religious people think sex is evil. Morality does not equal being celibate.

If you can think of a better argument for your position than "It is obvious to anyone with good judgement", you should probably post it.

personally I think autonomy should carry a life sentence

I am not religious and overly religious moralists bug the crap out of me. That said, it is very clear that as a society overall, we were much better off financially when more people were god fearing and religious and would beat their sons for knocking up a young lady without marrying her.

You have like 70% of black children born to unwed mothers and the numbers were at least 70%, probably higher, black children born to wed parents in 1960. The numbers for whites are not as terrible but still declining tremendously.

One of my neighbors was a very religious family in the USA. They never made a peep, never forgot to mow their grass, were basically the perfect neighbors. For the most part, religious people tend to be very good citizens and hard workers. Of course some are quite noisy but for the most part most religious people are not overly political.

Society has basically rejected Christianity and embraced the Welfare state. There is no more personal responsibility just entitlements. It'd be great if everyone was an Ayn Rand Capitalist like me who did not need Christianity or the government to be a productive, non entitled individual, but they are not.

this is almost 100% untrue in every singles sentence.

You start with a false assumption that we were better off financially - by what metric?

and then delve into the non-sequitor that it must have been because we had more religion.

The one part I can't fault you for though is your christian neighbor mowing his lawn, if that doesn't prove the boon that religion is for our society I don't know what does.

Sounds like you are describing every serial killer that was ever caught

When is this time in human history when men and women didnt have sex, do drugs or have fun and children didnt try to emulate them younger than the adults would have liked?

I guess all these mothers are going back to work now because having a job and sticking their children in daycare is more fun than when just the husband worked and the family still had a vacation home.

You really think that society is not affected adversely by having significantly more single mothers?

LOL

show me the link between religion and single mothers please, poorer communities tend to be the most religious

last I checked neither the religious nor the non-religious think single parenting for working class families is ideal

and you provided a terrible metric

Please do not rip off Adam Smith and Karl Marx on the need for religion to deal with working class upheaval and credit it to a shrill whore's deranged writings.

You really think you can just get away with assuming it is adversely affected?

The family with a vacation home was never the average family. The well off still have vacation homes.

There are very few metrics that show society progressing negatively in the west. Crime is down, life expectancy is up, quality of life is up and im pretty sure even relative levels of wealth is up.

Basically the only places religion is disproportionally higher than society as a whole in America is in prisons and poor people.

(here comes someone with an ikesism that its also disproportionately higher amongst the priesthood)

I can't sleep at night with all the skanks and whores bustling about.

My great grandfather was a tailor in NY. He had a vacation home. His wife never worked. My grandfather was a postman in NY. His wife never worked. They had a vacation home. The reason why more mothers are working these days is because a family can't make it without 2 incomes.

Common sense ftw.

Hmmm.... how might having two parents instead of one be better for a child. Let me think!

Phil you really do not think that African Americans would be better off if 80% of their children were born to married parents as opposed to 30%?

Has there been a decade yet since children were their own category and more than little adult mine workers when old people didn't think this sort of thing about young people? That Elvis Presley is causing our children to act like skanks and whores shaking their hips all around and so forth!

so a decline in christianity is what has driven lower middle class wages down? explain please

people used to smoke more tobacco back then too, making both of your threads a cluster**** of silly

Well given the rampant racism and prejudice they faced when those times (edit, alledgedly) happened the answer would be that they are better off now.

Just to be clear, a family can easily make it on 1 income for lots of jobs. But the reality is that tailor and postman aren't jobs that require a lot of training/education and so lots of people are willing/able to do those jobs.

I don't feel bad about that.

Religious people tend to have high work ethic and generally traits that benefit society. If people choose to get married and take care of their children for whatever reason, be it an imaginary turtle in the sky, it is good for society.

The modern day liberal, has a sheering hatred for religion. However, please acknowledge that, um, only 30% of children being born in wedlock is loltacular. For whites the number is still only around 50%. If you don't think a decline in the popularity of religion is a factor in out of wedlock children you are in denial.

Just to be clear, it was a hell of a lot easier to make it before we had the welfare and war machine. It was also easier to make it when your parents were married.

And would they be even better off if they stopped having children out of wedlock? You seem to be suggesting that in order to see a decline in racism we needed to have a decline in religion? I do not agree.

Lol, what?

You're totally missing the point that the world today is WAY more complex than it was 50-100 years ago. Computers, the internet, medical advances, etc. etc. all lead to a lot of jobs that require a lot of education/training.

Welfare and war machines have absolutely nothing to do with the postman and the tailor not being able to own vacation homes.