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Old 08-08-2012, 11:25 PM   #76
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Re: Mayor Bloomberg: Breastfeed or Else Ask Nicely

I have no idea what the scientific answer is regarding breast milk, but I have no problem with doctors taking steps to encourage the scientifically best answer. I also want them to persuade people to give up smoking when they come in and find lung cancer. If breast milk is best, then it is fine to encourage people to use it. I am not sure what value there is in a politician telling the doctors what to do though. Presumably there are already robust mechanisms by which hospitals decide what their procedures are on various issues.
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Old 08-08-2012, 11:31 PM   #77
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Re: Mayor Bloomberg: Breastfeed or Else Ask Nicely

Suck on your mother's teats all you want Mr Bloomberg. It won't make you a better mayor, or a better man.
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Old 08-09-2012, 12:24 AM   #78
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I have no problem with new mothers having to hear about the benefits of breastfeeding over formula. Sure if you have educated yourself about the issue it is a bit insulting but so many young Moms have not.
Sounds like this is just an educational issue and parents make the choice.
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Old 08-09-2012, 12:28 AM   #79
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Re: Mayor Bloomberg: Breastfeed or Else Ask Nicely

Hmmm what do you think about forcing mothers to get ultrasounds and told their baby may feel pain before an abortion?
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Old 08-09-2012, 10:05 AM   #80
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Hmmm what do you think about forcing mothers to get ultrasounds and told their baby may feel pain before an abortion?
Getting an ultrasound is a medical procedure, not patient education.

As for the second part I have no idea if its true, but it is actually the scientific consensus that it is true, then it seems pretty obvious to me that the physician would need to warn of this possible "adverse event" just like they do with any other procedure, pain is always one of the first symptoms they read off on consent forms. (quotes are b/c thats probably not the right word, but you know what I mean) I imagine that information would definitely play into some patients decision making, and purposely withholding it would be unethical, just like failing to name a side effect of any other intervention.

That being said, given the controversial and unique nature of abortion, it wouldn't surprise me if some of the ethics surrounding it aren't quite consistent with general medical practice, so I could be way off of actual practice here.
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Old 08-09-2012, 10:27 AM   #81
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I'm a little confused by people being against this. It bothers you that the government suggests mothers be given complete information in order to make an informed choice, but you don't have a problem with formula companies paying hospitals to get their products placed in patients' rooms?

Considering that about a third of the infant formula in the United States is purchased by the federal government, just think of this as a way of getting a few people off the government teat.
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Old 08-09-2012, 10:36 AM   #82
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Re: Mayor Bloomberg: Breastfeed or Else Ask Nicely

If Bloomberg wants some brat sucking on a teat all day, he can do it himself. LET ME WATCH MY STORIES IN PEACE!
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Old 08-10-2012, 04:48 AM   #83
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Isn't having informed consumers a positive thing? I don't see the issue with informing people that the free alternative to a product they are planning on using is of a far superior quality.
This.

Though it's not really free since the mom eats more to compensate.
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Old 08-10-2012, 04:55 AM   #84
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Formula is rat poison!

So are grains (even whole grains!), dairy and non-organic meats/fruits/veggies.
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Old 08-10-2012, 03:54 PM   #85
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Breastmilk is free and healthier they don't get colic.

But to the guy who said it's easier you ain't got no kids yo.

1) Some women can't pump enough and feed enough to get a little extra stock in the freezer for emergencys when she may need to give a bottle instead of the boob.

2) At least with formula the conviencence is that if your at a restraunt or on a plane or doing anything where it's almost impossible to whip dat boob out wheras you can just pop a bottle of formula in it's mouth and instant silence.

3) Some women and prostitutes can pump enough breast milk to feed all of Sturgis but most women can't. Women sometimes have to acutally aatack their pump strategically so they can freeze a few ounces here and there to have a supply where they might be able to give a bottle once in a while.

Again I have no point other than the guy who said breastmilk is easier...... is just a computer guy with no kids
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Old 08-10-2012, 04:37 PM   #86
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You make some good points, but breastmilk is so much easier because it is already warm. That makes a huge difference at 3AM, esp. from a father's POV.

Your No. 2 was no issue for my wife. She whipped it out anywhere and everywhere and stared down anybody who looked like they had a problem with it.
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Old 08-10-2012, 04:44 PM   #87
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You make some good points, but breastmilk is so much easier because it is already warm. That makes a huge difference at 3AM, esp. from a father's POV.
You have a very understanding wife. If my husband asked me for breastmilk at 3 in the morning, I'd make him sleep on the couch. That just ain't right.
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Old 08-10-2012, 05:40 PM   #88
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You make some good points, but breastmilk is so much easier because it is already warm. That makes a huge difference at 3AM, esp. from a father's POV.

Your No. 2 was no issue for my wife. She whipped it out anywhere and everywhere and stared down anybody who looked like they had a problem with it.
lol

glass

hot water from faucet

put bag in hot water

Total time from fathers life 89 seconds

not much of huge differn3ece unless lazy father wants wife to do everything.

2) if someone had a problem with my wifes boobs I'd prob embarras them whereever but for a lot of people they don't have the balls to call ppl on stupidity.

3) I won't use formula but there is a major conviencenece for the LARGE amount of women who can't produce enough to keep baby happy.

(I agree with you post as a father who HATES that 89 seconds at 3 am when i have to get up for work at 4 but whatever keeps me in laundry, food, secs.
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Re: Mayor Bloomberg: Breastfeed or Else Ask Nicely

Hot water from my faucet takes 90 seconds easily.
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Old 08-11-2012, 05:19 PM   #90
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Hot water from my faucet takes 90 seconds easily.
Srry I'm in the 1% I have a water cooler with a red spigot.

I failed to mention upper class people with those home depot coolers have much easier times raising da bebe's



(did forget about time delay)
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