There are some pretty horrific stories of people dying due to poisons being marketed as medicine. Like, they used to put antifreeze in cough syrup

Get your regulation out of my health care! The market will decide if antifreeze is an effective cough suppressant.

https://www.facebook.com/OccupyDemoc...0338337392549/

Don't know a youtube link to this. Alex Jones being Alex Jones.

Let's return the halcyon days of the Triangle Shirtwaist Fire and Killer Smog of Donora.

Isn't feminism basically an argument against gender-based UBI? I've heard feminism described, at least at its inception, as women wanting the same employment opportunities as men and chance to live more fulfilling lives. What stopped all those housewives from writing novels and creating art? It's generally considered a big insult to say women should be content with raising children and making a home.

Yes, I think anyone opposed to sexism should be opposed to a gender-based """""UBI."""""

I mean, what's happening in the Kenyan case with GiveDirectly isn't a universal basic income either, or it is one in name only. It's a Western charity project that chose groups of 6,000 people to whom to give money in a certain way. One of the main purposes was probably to generate "data" on the effectiveness of such programs; the Vox piece reads like sponsored content for a think tank.

The effect of this framing is to make it sound like this project is a lab for what a UBI would be like in the developed West, where it would of course be considerably more expensive. But the whole point of such a project is that it's wealth- and income-redistributive (in addition to creating social stability and economic freedom), but that term is political poison.

The idea that you can have a universal basic income that isn't enacted democratically--and that doesn't cover every working-age adult in the political region--is absurd.

Happy Birthday to Ruth Bader Ginsburg. Have been reading a lot about her recently (in addition to praying for her continued good health) and if there is any justice in the world she will end up being recognized by history as one of the all time great Americans.

I really don't understand any part of this argument, tbqh.

Also, can I say I don't get why everyone assumes people on UBI will just be sitting around living a life of leisure and writing novels. At least for the foreseeable future until we have replicators and holodecks, the "B" part of UBI means you're getting poverty wages. There's still a healthy incentive for people to find work that lets them live a more comfy life. I mean, sure there will be some people who just take the money and play video games just like there's people who live off welfare, but most people will be driven to get more of that money.

Hey apparently that Dutch racist guy Wilders underperformed in their recent elections. A good omen for France, I hope.

Lol. Out of morbid curiosity, what rationale do they offer for the no position?

Don't we already do this to some degree with the EITC and tons of other tax breaks for the working poor? Could we achieve something similar with higher min. wage, shorter work week and more tax breaks? Maybe even a bit of negative income tax but not enough so that sham jobs show up.

Is he in the KKK? Then yes. Did he use the N-word recently, often and not while drunk? Then maybe. Otherwise no.

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An income tax break by definition assumes you have to be employed to claim it.

A higher minimum wage (which we should absolutely have) just sets the floor rate of compensation for unskilled labor. You can both raise the minimum wage and have a UBI.

A shorter work week would be nice, but seems sort of tangential to the discussion?

There are already a ton of sham jobs. A negative income tax is a UBI with a requirement that you be employed in some capacity to collect. I'd sign onto such a proposal, but it's inferior for humanitarian reasons.

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1230414.html

I was responding to the premise that most people on UBI would still work. If that's the case then those other methods could achieve the same goal as UBI (for said working people).

UBI for non-working people is a whole other kettle of fish imo, and isn't part of what I was addressing.

Also by sham job I mean made up jobs where people pretend to exchange money for labor and both split the IRS kickback. This can only happen in a negative income tax situation. As I said, I don't think it would be a problem unless the negative income tax was large.

A Patriot missile - usually priced at about $3m - was used to shoot down a small quadcopter drone, according to a US general.

"That quadcopter that cost 200 bucks from Amazon.com did not stand a chance against a Patriot," he said.

Ah, the old No True UBI Fallacy rears its ugly head. I'll just say that your definition of UBI seems to be freighted with a lot of Dr Modern-specific concepts that are not generally shared.

Negative income tax proposals generally don't have an employment requirement FYI.

I'm all for a UBI model in which foreign benefactors give us all charity money, but this really isn't how most people imagine a UBI system for the US would play out.

Colbert does an amazing Maddow impression:

How many of you have skid marks in your tighty whities when you change out of them at the end of the day? I ask for a friend, TIA.

The Netherlands avoided their Brexit moment.

Let's see if France can do the same next month.

I really don't want to have to hear the word "Frexit" for the next several years.