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What Bernie wants to do is move the country to the left, or failing that, preventing the country from moving to the right. Making sure that a Dem wins in Nov is far more relevant toward that goal than winning a victory over Hillary among Democrats.

and I still don tthink backing hillary is sending a message.

again, one of his biggest points was that he was ANTI-establishment to the MAX. Trump was also echoing that statement. Hillary was the furthest thinng to anti-establishment

I still dont think backing hillary is a strong message at all

07-25-2016 , 02:42 AM

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07-25-2016 , 02:45 AM

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If you're a lawyer and the other side turns over 20k emails and the worst ones are what's been publicized from the DNC hack, you're gonna lose the case.

BTW, any Bernie supporters watch Trump's speech? Did you donate to HRC after?

07-25-2016 , 03:43 AM

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BTW, any Bernie supporters watch Trump's speech? Did you donate to HRC after?

One guy said he did.

07-25-2016 , 05:35 AM

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locknopair

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Originally Posted by Noodle Wazlib

i'm still anxiously awaiting someone, anyone, to point to an actual thing that happened which demonstrates the obvious bias of the DNC.

No takers so far. Asked quite a few people.

http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-d...-i-dropped-out

lawrence lessig, a democratic candidate who in some polls was polling either equal to or higher than webb and chafee, was forced to drop out due to exclusion from the debates. his main issue was campaign finance reform.

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As we entered the last week of October, the numbers indicated I’d hit the necessary one per cent in three polls. Every poll that included my name was finding me with at least that amount. There seemed to be time enough to get to the three I would need to qualify. The struggle, however bloody and difficult it had been, seemed finally to be paying off.

But then at the end of that week, the D.N.C. did something that even I in my most cynical moments could not believe they would ever do.

In the last days of October, Jarding spoke to the D.N.C. again. We were mistaken, he was told, about the rules for inclusion in the debate. The standard was not one per cent in three polls within six weeks of the debate (the standard we were about to meet), but one per cent in three polls at least six weeks before the debate. “The rules”—the ones that, in September, the D.N.C. had told Jarding “would not be changed”—had just been changed.

07-25-2016 , 07:46 AM

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The debate schedule was laughable but there's nothing in the emails that would indicate Sander's got too raw of a deal.

The employees at the DNC don't seem to be the paragons of objectivity they were supposed to be. Hopefully there's some housecleaning in the future.

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07-25-2016 , 08:43 AM

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I don't mind them not being objective, I mind them being incompetent. The atheist line is not just a moral affront to secular values, it was also a TRULY TERRIBLE idea.

07-25-2016 , 09:02 AM

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I shipped Canova some campaign cheese

07-25-2016 , 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by locknopair

So what the DNC did to Bernie was not let Lawrence Lessig into debates?

Man, no wonder BernieBros are shook.

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Originally Posted by FlyWf

I don't mind them not being objective, I mind them being incompetent. The atheist line is not just a moral affront to secular values, it was also a TRULY TERRIBLE idea.

Oh man, someone somewhere had a terrible idea, start the inpeachment proceedings, amirite?

07-25-2016 , 09:16 AM

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Trump winning doesn't seem too bad now.

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07-25-2016 , 09:24 AM

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DWS officially joining the Hillary campaign. Not that she wasn't already part of the Hillary campaign, but now it's official:

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/07/hill...=1737131x84899

07-25-2016 , 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson

DWS officially joining the Hillary campaign. Not that she wasn't already part of the Hillary campaign, but now it's official:

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/07/hill...=1737131x84899

What on earth? How could this possibly be a good idea?

07-25-2016 , 09:29 AM

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Hilldawg loves her some unforced errors.

07-25-2016 , 09:30 AM

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Saw something this morning on Alan Colmes' site claiming that Obama and some of Hillary's people even have been trying to get DWS to step down since last fall but I can't find it now wtf

07-25-2016 , 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Namath12

Saw something this morning on Alan Colmes' site claiming that Obama and some of Hillary's people even have been trying to get DWS to step down since last fall but I can't find it now wtf

http://www.alan.com/2016/07/25/repor...n-schultz-out/

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John Podesta, Clinton’s campaign chairman – and a former top adviser to Barack Obama – broached the idea of replacing Wasserman Schultz as early as last fall, only to be rebuffed by the president’s team, according to two people with direct knowledge of the conversation.

“It came down to the fact that the president didn’t want the hassle of getting rid of Debbie,” said a former top Obama adviser. “It’s been a huge problem for the Clintons, but the president just didn’t want the headache of Debbie bad-mouthing him… It was a huge pain in the ass.”

The Obama team – especially 2012 campaign manager Jim Messina – long viewed Wasserman Schultz as a major campaign liability, questioning her fundraising prowess and her tendency to appoint personal aides to positions of authority, prioritizing loyalty over competence and effectiveness as a spokesperson for Democrats. At the time, senior campaign officials leaked details of an internal survey, conducted by pollster David Binder, showing Wasserman Schultz was the least-liked Obama surrogate; she later dismissed the report as “National Enquirer” dross.

07-25-2016 , 09:43 AM

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07-25-2016 , 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Noze

Hilldawg loves her some unforced errors.

If Hillary loses in November this is one of the days her supporters should remember instead of knee-jerkingly pointing the finger at Bernie and his supporters.

07-25-2016 , 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Namath12

I shipped Canova some campaign cheese

Me too. The only reason I feel like some one should be forced to vote for Hilary is because of the SCOTUS.

The DNC is trying to squash the progressive movement to keep lobbyists and corporate money in politics. Why does anyone think that HRC nominating a SCOTUS will overturn that?

The stuff that has been happening this election shows that the RNC was fairer that the DNC. Yea they publicly tried to sabatoge Trump, but there were no reported problems from Republicans voting for who they wanted to vote for.

Amazing that there were so many problems in BIG states for Democrats who wanted to vote, when they always say that Republicans are trying to make voting harder.

The VP picks show you BOTH candidates are trying to solidify the establishment.

The establishment for the RNC and DNC are ****. Anyone following their bull**** is adding to the problem. No wonder half the country doesn't vote and they are considered the childish ones

07-25-2016 , 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Louis Cyphre

If Hillary loses in November this is one of the days her supporters should remember instead of knee-jerkingly pointing the finger at Bernie and his supporters.

This. ****ing Hillary slappies are handing a fascist conman a fighting chance at the White House. Couldn't even beat a geriatric socialist from Vermont without dipping into the dirty tricks bag; the general election is going to be an epic sweat. smh.

07-25-2016 , 10:03 AM

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The DNC has been a problem for years. Aside from the lack of objectivity, Obama built a whole parallel structure just for his campaign and career because the DNC was so inept, and no one really thinks they've been doing a good job.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...html?tid=ss_tw

07-25-2016 , 10:04 AM

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Seems like maxim fall out from what should have been a small problem.

07-25-2016 , 10:13 AM

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I got attacked in the other thread for calling HRC and the Democrats "bad at politics."

☑ DWS completely toxic to HRC.
☑ HRC adds DWS to her team.

Nice work! Very good politics!

07-25-2016 , 10:18 AM

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There is not enough outrage. I am furious over this. I donated about 500 bucks to Bernie's campaign and even though I had a feeling **** was rigged against him, I never wanted to believe it. Now that I do know i really wish bernie would wake up and run as an independent and give a massive middle finger to the Democratic party.

When he speaks at the convention I hope he uses the platform to tell Hilary and that ugly troll DWS to pound sand and announce his independent run on stage of the DNC.

btw I WILL NOT be voting for Hilary, and I may never vote D again. I am not the only one that feels this way