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Leaked DNC emails reveal secret plans to take on Sanders Leaked DNC emails reveal secret plans to take on Sanders

08-01-2016 , 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Shuffle
Gizmo did you spend an entire year locked in a room watching Lifetime movies by any chance?
looks like this guy took the opportunity to do some serious reflecting during his temp ban
08-01-2016 , 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Dids
That's not at all what her message said (you're reading the "boils down to" part into that on your own)- and auto-caping up for Assange is a bad ****ing look.

The obvious point is that the guy's a rapist (and I'll thrown in that he's a gross anti-semite).
Her post definitely included a connection between Assange's dislike of Hillary and her gender. Is your objection purely semantic?
"auto-caping up for Assange" is only in your imagination.
08-01-2016 , 09:54 PM
Gizmo, Dids, or anyone else do you think Assange is more likely to be a rapist than Bill Clinton?
08-01-2016 , 10:18 PM
How credible are the Assange rape allegations? I confess I haven't been following that story at all.
08-01-2016 , 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by RazzSpazz
Gizmo, Dids, or anyone else do you think Assange is more likely to be a rapist than Bill Clinton?
Is bill more or less likely to be a rapist than trump, someone whose wife swore under oath that he raped her?
08-01-2016 , 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Noodle Wazlib
Is bill more or less likely to be a rapist than trump, someone whose wife swore under oath that he raped her?

More given she was in the middle of a divorce and recanted.
08-01-2016 , 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by catfacemeowmers
It is better that they didn't do it. That isn't the super strong point you think it is.
Who said I think it's some super strong point? I'm more curious of the intellectual honesty of the people I'm talking with. If they can't see any shades of gray, what's the point of talking to them?

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Originally Posted by batair
All questions are ok.

I care about the reason why someone in the DNC wanted those questions asked. He wanted them asked because he knew atheists are hated and he was going to use that hate and out one. Thats ****ed up. No in the closet atheists need apply. And since out of the closet ones cant. gg

Question?

If someone in the democratic party thought someone was secretly gay would it be ok to use that for political gain and encourage questions about it in an attempt to out them?

What if someone at the DNC thought someone in their ranks was a secret Muslim and that could be used against them. Would it be ok?
All questions are okay, but asking questions that make someone looked bad, that's wrong? No one could ask Rubio about his alleged affairs, because their intent is to make him look bad after all, right?

This is politics and there's a whole lot of kiddie pearl clutching in here. Political operatives are pretty smart, if not poor at tech. They know the grass-fed public gets nervous over buzzwords & insinuations. There is no sacred cow to them afaik.

Yes, it's dirty, but that's pretty much politics. You find out whatever you can about your opponent and try to use that against them. I'm sorry the way the sausages are made bugs you, but it doesn't change anything now that you know about it.
08-01-2016 , 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Noodle Wazlib


All questions are okay, but asking questions that make someone looked bad, that's wrong? No one could ask Rubio about his alleged affairs, because their intent is to make him look bad after all, right?

This is politics and there's a whole lot of kiddie pearl clutching in here. Political operatives are pretty smart, if not poor at tech. They know the grass-fed public gets nervous over buzzwords & insinuations. There is no sacred cow to them afaik.

Yes, it's dirty, but that's pretty much politics. You find out whatever you can about your opponent and try to use that against them. I'm sorry the way the sausages are made bugs you, but it doesn't change anything now that you know about it.
You dont seem to understand my issue with this or want to so. yeah...
08-01-2016 , 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by seattlelou
More given she was in the middle of a divorce and recanted.
'recanted' is a strong word for what she did

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Originally Posted by batair
You dont seem to understand my issue with this or want to so. yeah...
hence why i asked about the rubio example, for clarification
08-01-2016 , 10:31 PM
You need more clarification then that.
08-01-2016 , 10:34 PM
Yeah, also why I asked for a list of off-limit questions
08-01-2016 , 10:38 PM
Right, thats part of the problem. It misses my point.


Think i might of asked some questions too...
08-01-2016 , 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Noodle Wazlib
Yes, it's dirty, but that's pretty much politics. You find out whatever you can about your opponent and try to use that against them.
Homie, Bernie Sanders isn't an "opponent" of the DNC.
08-01-2016 , 10:43 PM
You asked if the gay/muslim thing was okay to question.

Say Corey Booker runs next year. He's not married yet. He somehow gets the nom from Hilldawg. He will 100% get questions about if he's gay.

Is that bad? To me, probably worse than the religion question, but some people care about that stuff so it's not really up to me to make that decision for them, is it? I think it's immoral to care about such things, but if you're a god-fearing patriot who wants a straight man in the white house who rolls back the rights of the gays, who am I to tell him he can't have his terribly misguided beliefs?
08-01-2016 , 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Noodle Wazlib
You asked if the gay/muslim thing was okay to question.
Nope, i asked if it was ok for someone in the DNC to out them if they were in the closet and though them to the bigots.


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Say Corey Booker runs next year. He's not married yet. He somehow gets the nom from Hilldawg. He will 100% get questions about if he's gay.

Is that bad? To me, probably worse than the religion question, but some people care about that stuff so it's not really up to me to make that decision for them, is it? I think it's immoral to care about such things, but if you're a god-fearing patriot who wants a straight man in the white house who rolls back the rights of the gays, who am I to tell him he can't have his terribly misguided beliefs?
So you would be ok with someone in the DNC outing a homosexual for political gain. ok
08-01-2016 , 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by batair
Nope, i asked if it was ok for someone in the DNC to out them if they were in the closet
No, you didn't:

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If someone in the democratic party thought someone was secretly gay
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and though them to the bigots.
huh? "and thought them to be bigots"? "and throw them to the bigots"?

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So you would be ok with someone in the DNC outing a homosexual for political gain. ok
are we talking about a situation like Bernie's where he is running for the same party? I've already said I don't think the DNC should be biased against its own candidates.

Last edited by Loki; 08-01-2016 at 11:17 PM.
08-01-2016 , 11:27 PM
Sigh...
08-01-2016 , 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Noodle Wazlib
Is bill more or less likely to be a rapist than trump, someone whose wife swore under oath that he raped her?
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Originally Posted by seattlelou
More given she was in the middle of a divorce and recanted, and then publicly spoke highly of him and even stated that Donald Trump would make a great president last year.
FYP

Anyways, the rape case against Assange is laughably weak, and obviously manufactured given his history. I am looking forward to the next wikileaks release though. Assange seemed pretty confident and comfortable in his recent public appearances...
08-02-2016 , 12:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Noodle Wazlib


are we talking about a situation like Bernie's where he is running for the same party? I've already said I don't think the DNC should be biased against its own candidates.
Jesus Christ. So if it's Lindsay Graham running against Hillary next time around, you're ok with Hillary/her team asking questions insinuating that he's gay? Listen to yourself. You're putting on an ikes-caliber performance right now.
08-02-2016 , 12:30 AM
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Originally Posted by catfacemeowmers
Jesus Christ. So if it's Lindsay Graham running against Hillary next time around, you're ok with Hillary/her team asking questions insinuating that he's gay? Listen to yourself. You're putting on an ikes-caliber performance right now.
Actually, an analogous situation would be one person in the dnc writing an email to someone saying "graham hasn't been married, what if we brought up him being gay to discredit him" and then no one actually bringing it up in public.
08-02-2016 , 12:52 AM
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Originally Posted by seattlelou
More given she was in the middle of a divorce and recanted.
REMINDER:

Seattlelou is 100% voting for Trump and people should not humor his lies otherwise
08-02-2016 , 02:03 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyWf
REMINDER:



Seattlelou is 100% voting for Trump and people should not humor his lies otherwise


you have said the same thing about me numerous times and it couldn't be further from the truth.
08-02-2016 , 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Gizmo
Actually, an analogous situation would be one person in the dnc writing an email to someone saying "graham hasn't been married, what if we brought up him being gay to discredit him" and then no one actually bringing it up in public.


The question was whether LK would be ok with the DNC outing a closeted gay person. His response, instead of the obvious answer of "no of course not I'm not a monster" was "well if it's another dem I've already said the DNC shouldn't attack them"
08-02-2016 , 07:20 AM
But also, to be clear, writing an email considering whether to out him also means that you're 100% a piece of human garbage
08-02-2016 , 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Gizmo
Actually, an analogous situation would be one person in the dnc writing an email to someone saying "graham hasn't been married, what if we brought up him being gay to discredit him" and then no one actually bringing it up in public.
Um, that would be pretty ****ty on its face, but also the analogy is terrible since Graham isn't a Democrat.

Like, you guys don't seem to get it: the DNC isn't supposed to be partial to Hillary. It's totally out of line for them to be covertly workshopping ways for Hil to discredit her primary opponent, to say nothing of how slimy and un-American it is to take these kinds of shots at his religion.

      
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