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There is a fake article about an offshore account that shows up on twitter regularly. She's basically admitting that her campaign uses fake news actively.

05-03-2017 , 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by BABARtheELEPHANT

Debate is on tomorrow. Macron is going to crush her.

To be fair everyone said this on 2p2 about hillary over trump after their debates but me and it ended up the other way around. It does look like she loses but it also looks like she'll do a bit better than people think. Macron won't get quite the turnout imo that I'm seeing in #'s.

05-04-2017 , 01:47 AM

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05-04-2017 , 02:13 AM

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@wheatrich: It's a minor thing but why do you keep repeating that point about the US debates? It's simply not true.

http://heavy.com/news/2016/10/who-wo...s-say-clinton/

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According to a CNN / ORC poll of debate watchers immediately following Wednesday’s debate, Clinton won the debate. The results showed 52 percent said Clinton won, as opposed to 39% for Trump. That’s a tighter margin than in the first two debates.

The CNN / ORC poll following the prior two presidential debates showed victories for Clinton as well, giving the former secretary state a clean sweep across all three of the debates. 62 percent of debate watchers saying she won the second debate, and 57 percent saying she won the first debate.

YouGov’s post-debate poll, also shows Clinton winning the third presidential debate. According to their poll, which interviewed 1503 registered voters who watched the debate, Clinton won the debate against Trump by 49 percent to 39 percent. 12 percent said it was a tie.

YouGov also showed decisive victories for Clinton after the first and second presidential elections. Following the second debate YouGov’s post-debate poll showed Clinton won the second presidential debate over Trump 47% to 42%. That poll interviewed 812 registered voters who watched the debate.

Like even if debates were somehow the single major deciding factor in the election, which of course they were not even close to being, then you can conclude by Clinton's popular vote victory that she won the debates.

05-04-2017 , 08:06 AM

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05-04-2017 , 10:51 AM

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It was so cringeworthy live, I had to look away from the TV.

Only moment of the debate I feared he might snap

05-04-2017 , 10:55 AM

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Obama supports Macron. Merci Obama.

05-04-2017 , 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by AllTheCheese

Maybe...it is just possible that while Trump performed poorly with the general population he may have won over the stupid white male vote so critical to his victory.

05-05-2017 , 01:44 AM

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the russians are out full force against macron right now

trumpets repeating thier **** lol half of them probably not realizing theyre being manipulated again

05-05-2017 , 05:11 AM

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polls seem decent for macron today and time is running out. otoh markets havent really move at all and le pen is still at 10-11% which is fairly high.

05-05-2017 , 08:11 AM

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Oh my God, she's having a seizure!

05-05-2017 , 06:27 PM

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Macron campaign emails leaked online after hack.

05-05-2017 , 06:27 PM

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Seems very coincidental

05-05-2017 , 06:30 PM

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The Macron campaign has confirmed there was a targeted attack, and are purporting that the emails released 'contain authentic and fake documents meant to sow confusion'.

05-05-2017 , 06:47 PM

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http://www.reuters.com/article/us-fr...-idUSKBN1812AZ

Elections these days got more plot twists than 24

05-05-2017 , 07:25 PM

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What a **** show. If there is something in there that tips the election (no chance imo) there are probably hundreds of legal reason to cancel it.

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Originally Posted by Shuffle

...and Mélenchon takes the National Assembly next month.

Thank you for a good laugh in those trying times!

05-05-2017 , 07:28 PM

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Macron and company are saying that there's a ton of fake stuff in there interspersed with normal campaign type emails

So its pretty WTF to say you hope he is tarnished by them

05-05-2017 , 07:28 PM

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Shuffle's 'just heard' is a 4chan thread, with the usual trustworthiness. 4chan wasn't the source and isn't blocked in France. The French government does have power in law to order ISPs to block certain websites, though not for this sort of thing (unless they think it somehow constitutes terrorism).

Last edited by pyatnitski; 05-05-2017 at 07:29 PM. Reason: Obv don't know where he heard it, but that seems to be the start of the 'website blocked' rumour

05-05-2017 , 08:16 PM

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The thing that I find curious is the Macron's campaign responsive claim that the leaked emails contain falsified information along with the real. Such a claim makes it more likely that there is actual, real information contained in them that would be be potentially damaging, and this is there easy play to obfuscate the entire situation.

05-05-2017 , 08:18 PM

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Of course there is always the difference between information that IS and SHOULD be damaging, and information that can be presented or perceived as such. So it would make sense for the campaign response to be as such, regardless of the contents of the leaks, as it can only really help them for all of the scenarios, and not really hurt them if the claim that some information is fabricated is itself completely false.

05-05-2017 , 08:59 PM

#722

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or maybe there is just not that much damaging information on him and his party, given it's just about 1year old, so the russi... pardon, the unknown people who took it, made something up.

05-05-2017 , 09:06 PM

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Yeah who knows what is up with the whole story and I have yet to see anything of note as to the content of the data. I was just stating that the response has been the standard play in this spot, as is expected.

The same move was used with the Podesta and DNC leaks, and is just a standard response that cannot really be faulted.

05-05-2017 , 09:49 PM

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the fact that nothing insanely damaging has come out of this yet seems to indicate theres nothing?... is that crazy to say or are some stuff still not out and discovered?

05-05-2017 , 09:52 PM

#725

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I get the vague feeling that French media and voters are way smarter than American media and voters and they are going to see right through these "leaks."

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