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08-15-2011, 07:19 PM
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banned
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Re: Law and Order 2
According to the guy who shot the cop the cop also pointed his gun at the guy.
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08-15-2011, 08:46 PM
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#92
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Re: Law and Order 2
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Originally Posted by galmost
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I looked around some to see if there are any eyewitness accounts, but I couldn't find any.
edit: Ok, I read some more. The neighbor that call the police (and refuses to be identified) says that the officer saved him from the then unarmed man.
http://www.lehighvalleylive.com/beth...emansburg.html
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08-20-2011, 02:40 PM
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#93
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banned
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Re: Law and Order 2
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08-23-2011, 10:05 PM
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#94
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adept
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Re: Law and Order 2
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09-01-2011, 11:07 AM
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King Emeritus
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Re: Law and Order 2
In before HC82 drops by to tell us it's the victims fault for not following directions.
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09-01-2011, 11:59 AM
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#97
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Re: Law and Order 2
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Originally Posted by pvn
In before HC82 drops by to tell us it's the victims fault for not following directions.
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Sure, its not her fault, cop is bad, yadda yadda, but if she isnt standing at that bus stop, wearing that provocative Eagles sweatshirt, then she doesnt get raped...just sayin.
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09-01-2011, 12:31 PM
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#98
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Re: Law and Order 2
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09-21-2011, 02:27 PM
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#99
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journeyman
Join Date: Sep 2010
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Cop charged w/ 2nd degree murder in death of homeless man
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Originally Posted by shermanash
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http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...yndication=rss
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A police officer has been charged with murder in the death of a mentally ill homeless man in Southern California who was beaten and repeatedly shocked with a stun gun during his arrest, a defense attorney said Wednesday.
Lawyer John Barnett said his client, Fullerton police Officer Manuel Ramos, surrendered to authorities and was being charged with second-degree murder.
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2nd cop charged w/ manslaughter:
http://reason.com/blog/2011/09/21/li...mmentcontainer
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09-22-2011, 10:07 PM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Re: Law and Order 2
^ A little more of an update on this and some lolawyer-speak.
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The fatal police beating of a mentally ill, homeless man, prosecutors say, began with one officer snapping on a pair of latex gloves and a single threat.
Kelly Thomas was sitting on a curb in Southern California as police checked his backpack when Officer Manuel Ramos donned the gloves and made two fists in front of him. Prosecutors say Ramos then said: "Now see my fists? They are getting ready to F you up."
"This declaration was a turning point — a defining moment," Orange County District Attorney Tony Rackauckas said, as he announced Wednesday that Ramos and another officer have been charged in Thomas' death.
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"We simply cannot accept that in our community that it is within the police's right to place gloves on a police officer's hand and put his fists in front of a detainee and say, these fists are ready to 'eff' you up," Rackauckas said. "That is not protecting and serving."
In response to claims about Ramos, the gloves and the threat, his attorney, John Barnett, said his client was using the "lowest type of force." He said Thomas resisted arrest by kicking and swinging at officers.
"It was an attempt by the officer to use words not force to get the suspect to do what he's supposed to do," he said. "He sought to avoid physical confrontation with words. There was no compliance by Mr. Thomas."
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"He made two fists with his gloves on, two fists. He lifted his fists in front of Kelly Thomas so he could see them," the lead prosecutor said. "... That's when it went from a fairly routine investigation, a fairly routine police detention, to an impending beating by an angry police officer."
Thomas replied, "Start punching, dude."
Ramos then grabbed Thomas by the arm and pulled out his baton when Thomas pulled away. He swung his baton and chased Thomas, who ran behind a police car, eventually punching him in his ribs and tackling him before holding down his neck and lying on top of Thomas to pin him down, Rackauckus said.
The coroner concluded that the cause of death was mechanical compression of the thorax, which made it impossible for Thomas to breathe normally and deprived his brain of oxygen, Rackauckas said. Other injuries to the face and head contributed to his death, he said.
Cicinelli, who arrived later, kneed Thomas twice in the head and used a Taser four times on him as he screamed and yelled in pain, Rackauckas said. Cicinelli hit Thomas in the face eight times with the Taser, he said.
"His numerous pleas of 'I'm sorry,' 'I can't breathe,' 'Help Dad' (were) all to no avail. Screams, loud screams, didn't help," the prosecutor said.
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09-26-2011, 06:59 PM
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#101
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adept
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Re: Law and Order 2
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09-26-2011, 10:59 PM
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#102
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faking winning cars
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Re: Law and Order 2
Totally standard.
Anon posted the captains info recently. I imagine he'll be getting lots of pizzas delivered.
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09-27-2011, 05:33 PM
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#103
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Aug 2004
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Re: Law and Order 2
Standard, ldo
If you are causing a disturbance the police are gonna show up to arrest you. If you resist the police are going to use force.
The cop in question might be an *******, but it really bugs me how every article I read talks about the "innocent females".
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09-30-2011, 04:25 PM
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#105
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banned
Join Date: Jul 2004
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Re: Law and Order 2
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Originally Posted by daca
There's a selection bias there. Prisoners are probably much more likely to report it when they are raped by guards than when they are raped by other inmates. The vast majority of prison rapes are probably still inmate on inmate imo.
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Agreed.
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