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02-28-2013 , 12:52 PM

#2701

OmahaFanatical4

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Chances I would go to jail if I just stepped outside and fired a gun at the ground?

02-28-2013 , 01:06 PM

#2702

seattlelou

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OmahaFanatical4

Chances I would go to jail if I just stepped outside and fired a gun at the ground?

Where are you standing?

02-28-2013 , 01:08 PM

#2703

pvn

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Quote:

Originally Posted by grando1.0

yep I'm pretty sure he aimed between his son and daughter to get the dog between the eyes for TEN POINTS BABY!!!

lol @ this post

pretty sure there's a condescending wonka response that would fit here but I'm on slow as balls starbux wifi so I'm not going to find it

02-28-2013 , 02:09 PM

#2704

EricLindros

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bremen

0.1%

Even if you're in the wrong, you're rarely going to jail for shooting a dog. You might have to pay damages to the owner, which at most will be a couple hundred for the cost of the dog.

Now if PETA ran the world...

Odds go way up if that pharmacist were to shoot a police dog though.

02-28-2013 , 08:29 PM

#2705

Bremen

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Originally Posted by EricLindros

Odds go way up if that pharmacist were to shoot a police dog though.

Well odds are if you shoot a police dog that you're already in a situation where you're going to jail.

02-28-2013 , 09:49 PM

#2706

vhawk01

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Originally Posted by Bremen

He wouldnt be in jail for shooting a dog...

02-28-2013 , 09:50 PM

#2707

vhawk01

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Originally Posted by seattlelou

Where are you standing?

In a park full of kids (and dogs)

02-28-2013 , 11:28 PM

#2708

OmahaFanatical4

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guns are dangerous and must be banned, but when a cop shoots his gun for no reason in a public park it's no big deal

03-01-2013 , 11:42 AM

#2709

EricLindros

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bremen

Well odds are if you shoot a police dog that you're already in a situation where you're going to jail.

Not necessarily if you take a grando-like stance on the "0.0000001%" chance that dog might harm you or your kids.

03-01-2013 , 02:20 PM

#2710

grando1.0

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hyperbole ftw

03-01-2013 , 03:52 PM

#2711

drugsarebad

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So the guy seen punching a woman in the face below got acquitted recently:

Oh and yeah, the judge is married to a Philadelphia Police Officer and supported by the police union. Lol philadelphia.

http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/c...194274341.html

03-01-2013 , 04:21 PM

#2712

DblBarrelJ

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This argument is ridiculous.

Three things:

- You may shoot a dog if you have a right to be where you are and it's in pretty much any conceivable way threatening you.

- As Grando said, if you're shooting at a police dog, you probably were going to jail, although now you're probably going to the hospital, because it's extremely difficult for me to tell you're shooting at the dog and not me, so I'll be shooting you.

- Eric, in situations where a police dog is just running wild and no handler is in sight, you can actually get away with shooting it to protect yourself. I've seen it done.

03-01-2013 , 04:49 PM

#2713

Happy_Fish

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Originally Posted by DblBarrelJ

This argument is ridiculous.

- You may shoot a dog if you have a right to be where you are and it's in pretty much any conceivable way threatening you.

I totally agree that's ridiculous.

03-01-2013 , 04:52 PM

#2714

DblBarrelJ

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Bro, it's a dog.

If you're some kind of weird hippy who views dogs and humans as equals, I'm sorry to have offended your sensibilities, but the rest of the country disagrees.

Control your dog.

03-01-2013 , 04:53 PM

#2715

Happy_Fish

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I'm pretty sure if this proposed law was put to a vote:

Quote:

You may shoot a dog if you have a right to be where you are and it's in pretty much any conceivable way threatening you.

It would be defeated soundly.

03-01-2013 , 04:54 PM

#2716

Happy_Fish

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That attitude sure does explain a lot, though.

03-01-2013 , 04:55 PM

#2717

DblBarrelJ

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So you believe that shooting dogs should be held to similar standards to shooting humans?

That is quite an "interesting" position I suppose.

03-01-2013 , 05:00 PM

#2718

Happy_Fish

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Not at all, there's far less reason to shoot a dog in almost all cases. Yes, sometimes you may actually run into a dog that is a threat. When that's the case I have no problems. When you bust down somebody's door in the night and shoot their black labs, yeah, you should be held to a better standard than 'the deputies who entered Calvo's home "apparently felt threatened" by the dogs.'

03-01-2013 , 05:03 PM

#2719

DblBarrelJ

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No one's discussing raids.

We're discussing what an armed citizen could legally do if a strange dog started running toward their children at the park.

03-01-2013 , 05:04 PM

#2720

Happy_Fish

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I wouldn't want to discuss raids either. Or traffic stops, or just being out in the middle of the street during a dog show. Or in some ladies driveway because you're lost.

03-01-2013 , 05:09 PM

#2721

DblBarrelJ

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I'm not sure if you're so ignorant you have no idea how poorly informed you are on raids, or so blind that you're thinking I'm going to defend everything the police do, but in either event it's rather funny to watch, so please proceed.

03-01-2013 , 05:19 PM

#2722

Huehuecoyotl

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Originally Posted by DblBarrelJ

No one's discussing raids.

We're discussing what an armed citizen could legally do if a strange dog started running toward their children at the park.

Meh, I could have shot hundreds of dogs legally if I wanted to by now. Unless the dog is aggressive, which by the third party accounts the dog didn't seem to be then shooing it, kicking it or whatever works just fine. No need to kill every dog that comes around without an owner.

03-01-2013 , 05:23 PM

#2723

DblBarrelJ

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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl

Well of course.

But that becomes an ethics question.

I agree btw there's just not really much evidence that this dog needed killing. That being said, he shouldn't be prosecuted either.