hmmm... It could.

I'm certainly not interested in discussing the topic of how this murder was justified or anything less than a heinous crime, no. But yes, I think you have it pretty accurately summated. My position is **** da popo. The abuses are systemic and will continue so long as they are not criminally liable for any action they under take. Which means, so long as we have state monopoly policing and state monopoly justice courts, I will keep saying **** da popo because it's human nature to abuse power.

But some day, when the revolution comes, and police are provided on the market like bicycles, and cops who abuse individuals who are not initiating aggression are immediately fired and held criminally liable for their actions, I will no longer have a hatred against police because they will no longer be ****ing us over at every turn but instead protecting property rights and individuals from the aggression of others.


but until that day, **** da popo

And the "Revolution", will it include gunz?

You mean like private security guards?

Why it gotta be bicycles?

Why not segways?

On a personal note, a few months from now, I could be rotting in prison for the next 9 years.

viva the justice system!

Well that's rather vague.

Can you tell us more?

got busted for possesion of a schedule i controlled substance. apparently that's a big deal.
#mylifeisover

Well at least you learned not to struggle when handcuffed

*pardon me, maximum penalty of 7 years in prison. of course i might not get that, maybe the search was illegal, maybe I can make a deal, who knows. but either way it sucks. I wasn't hurting anyone, aside from myself, and yet here I face the prospect of rotting in prison alongside murderers, child rapists, armed robbers... truly violent psychopaths.

le sigh

oh, and in case that wasn't bad enough, the cops felt they were justified in helping themselves to the two stacks of high society i was carrying with me (came almost directly from a tournament series where I played @ the same table as former world champion Johnathon Duhamel... incidentally saw him pull off a really sick 6k river bluff w/ a high on a double paired board). "proceeds of crime" what a joke these asset seizure laws are. we'll just take your property because we're the government and **** you that's why.

Well, i mean, you know the law and possible consequences of your actions right?

I agree that drug possession is malum prohibitum and not malum in se but getting caught is more of a bad decision than a bad break.

Where was Saylor's health aide when all this happened? I haven't seen any statement from that person.

ya ya ya. Look jayteeme, I grew up in a household of three women, I'm well aware that everything that has ever happened in the history of mankind is my fault. and kudos on teaching me those latin terms. I guess I never really considered I could go to prison, just because i liked to put something up my nose. Personally I love ketamine... it's an anti-depressant, seems pretty non toxic (on the other hand it does make me pretty ****ing delusional, so who knows could be causing some brain damage)... I just don't see why I should rot in prison because while other people are out poisoning their livers and drinking beer, getting into fights, having sex with ugly women and crashing into families of four with their vehicles I prefer to get ****ed up on ketamine and play internet chess or make like a million queens in sc 2 and loose to some marine maurauder mix.

I don't even really understand how I got caught. I think the ****ing taxi driver informed on me. I get into a cab, then the next thing I know I'm somewhere downtown trying to hail a cab, and then the cop is talking to me, and then I'm bounded and shackled on my side in the back of the cruiser. whatever. life goes on. another victory for law and order.

I'm not going to defend this country's drug laws, but having drugs on you when you've got a long string of priors is pants-on-head stupid.

Canadian prisons that bad?

I'm not sure, I guess I'll be able to tell u in 5 years. Look forward to my trip report "I got raped up the ass, but the food was alright".

Good thread about going to prison:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/34...ty-prison-547/

I'm gonna guess arresting him in the first place was the mistake.

Off duty officers have arrest power, but in the past you've been quite clear that departments rather frown on their officers doing this.

I dunno, guy is not leaving and being combative whatcha gonna do?

http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index...ing_scene.html

this story just gets more and more awe-inspiring as it goes on, you definitely need to read the whole thing.

Cliffnotes: car with unarmed civilians gets shot up by cops (in a school parking lot!), other cops think the civilians are shooting at them and then it goes downhill pretty quickly.

To the cops' credit, nobody tried to plant a gun on the victims.

choice quote:

Since he just wanted to see the movie again I'd tell him we're not showing it again today but there is a theatre down the road...

Or just get money from his caretaker for another ticket...

If you need to arrest him call for an on-duty officer to do it.

the idea that cops would ever alter or fabricate evidence in this day and age is absurd imo. checks and balances.

http://billingsgazette.com/news/stat...16d11e28a.html

No criminal negligence? So if instead of being off duty cops, these guys were just some 18 year olds working "movie theater security" because they were too stupid to work the popcorn machine, do you think they'd still just be on the hook for some civil penalties, and have no criminal liability whatsoever?

Am I allowed to tackle some guy, hold him down, and ultimately cause his death, as long as I dont know any better? I'm pretty ****ing stupid, you'd be amazed at the things I dont "know any better."