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02-18-2013 , 12:22 AM
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/fl-troop...2.story?page=1

Florida Highway Patrolman traveling 105 mph with no lights or siren causes a head on collision and kills a woman and injures another and a child, case dismissed
02-18-2013 , 12:30 AM
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But when his case came up in court, the trooper who issued the citations wasn't there. Another trooper in attendance said that though he couldn't represent the agency, he would not object to dismissing the tickets, and the judge did just that.
02-18-2013 , 07:10 AM
Omaha, what's the takeaway from that story IYO?

What did the police officers do wrong in your view?

(I'd like to note that they did do something wrong, so I'm not saying they didnt, but none of you will correctly guess what it was)
02-18-2013 , 08:11 AM
uh if I had to guess it would probably be the killing a ****** part... what's your view? didn't yell 'you're resisting arrest' loud enough?
02-18-2013 , 08:13 AM
How'd they kill him?

Did they kill him?
02-18-2013 , 08:20 AM
afaik cause of death was asphyxiation. maybe he just happened to die simultaneously while they were attacking him.
02-18-2013 , 08:21 AM
I know you're googling like crazy trying to discover my angle.

Try this search: Asphyxia+Restraints+combative

Should help.

Have a nice day.

02-18-2013 , 08:22 AM
no honestly i couldn't care less about what your point is, but thanks for all your vague hints! great chat.
02-18-2013 , 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by OmahaFanatical4
afaik cause of death was asphyxiation. maybe he just happened to die simultaneously while they were attacking him.
You must have linked the wrong article. The WaPo article you've linked doesn't say anyone attacked anyone. Are you utilizing more than one source or making assumptions without facts?
02-18-2013 , 08:29 AM
Google the terms "cops + assault + semantics" and you'll find my argument somewhere between the 19th and 34th pages.
02-18-2013 , 08:42 AM
You seem to be quite bitter.

I'm curious, is your impression here that the most likely reason is that the cops choked this man to death?
02-18-2013 , 08:47 AM
You seem to have an alternate theory... I've been attempting to divine it but have been thus far unsuccessful. Just one more toss of the entrails and I'm sure to have it figured out.
02-18-2013 , 08:49 AM
It seems pretty clear cut to me though - you've got a guy with serious mental issues. Instead of attempting to understand that, a few rambo style pigs who like to inflict violence on people attacked this guy who needs love, care and an appreciation of his needs, not someone to smack him around a few times. Because of this unwarranted attack, kidnapping and confinement he died. His murderers will not face any legal repercussions for his death.
02-18-2013 , 08:51 AM
from facebook :



ELEVEN DOLLARS

On January 14, 2013, a young man with Down Syndrome went with his companion to see Zero Dark Thirty at the Regal Cinema in Frederick, MD. At the end of the movie, apparently because he wanted to see it again, he refused to get out of his seat. A Regal employee, rather than allowing him to stay and dealing with the situation later with his parents and the companion, called not one, not two, but three off duty Frederick County police officers who were working security for the theater at the time.

According to published reports, when the officers/ security guards asked him to leave, he mouthed off at them and "resisted arrest". Those of you who know my son Landon can visualize what this would look like. In response, the officers wrestled him to the ground where he asphyxiated in handcuffs. The handcuffs were removed and EMS called and according to the police news release he later died at hospital. I don't know how that reconciles with the coroner's finding of asphyxiation which I thought was pretty immediate.

The price of a ticket at the cinema is between $9 and $11. The additional cost to Regal of allowing him to watch the movie again was ZERO. But instead a beloved young man died on the floor of a movie theater in his neighborhood at the hands of people he was taught would protect him.

The police officers remain on duty and were allowed to invoke their rights as police officers not to provide statements even though they were not on duty or performing official duties at the time. They were security guards in police uniforms.

The county police are investigating and the story has received local news coverage. Please share this everywhere both to ensure justice but also to raise public awareness.

ELEVEN DOLLARS

Where is our humanity when a young, obviously disabled young man dies for the price of a movie ticket. My son is worth a lot more to me and society than eleven dollars.
02-18-2013 , 09:03 AM
From Wikipedia:

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positional_asphyxia

Here's the basics:

Guy gets combative, police are forced to place him on the ground to restrain him.

Once his hands are brought behind his back, he's struggling more to breathe, causing him to panic.

Once he begins to panic, he begins to fight more.

Once he begins to fight more, the cops apply more pressure to attempt to control him.

I think you see where this is going.

Now I know this isn't nearly as sexy as some dirty TV cop you watch choking the life out of a man with Down syndrome then going right back to work, but yea, that's what went on.

It's a training lapse, I will say that. The dept is on the hook for millions civilly, but there's no criminal intent, no criminal negligence unless their training records show they've been exposed to that training. In my experience, unless they are involved in a position that requires a higher than likely chance of having to chase someone a long distance, they likely weren't aware of that.
02-18-2013 , 09:06 AM
Yes we're all aware that cops can do anything they want, kill whoever they want, and face no criminal liability. But perhaps if we inform the mother of the victim that the callous disregard for life which caused her sons death wasn't really murder but simply a 'training deficiency' she will feel better.
02-18-2013 , 09:10 AM
Police enjoy asserting power and dominance. It makes them feel like a big man to physically overwhelm someone, even if that person isn't doing anything wrong, even if that person is mentally ******ed and incapable of defending themselves. Like someone who beats their wife because of the inadequacies they feel in life in general, at work or whatever, police get off on inflicting pain and violence on others simply because they can. How macho they are to beat the **** out of some defenseless kid.
02-18-2013 , 09:57 AM
thnks dbl for tarding this thread up GJGE
02-18-2013 , 02:23 PM
Ah, ok Omaha, so you weren't really interested in discussing a topic, you're just one of these "****DAPOPO" types wanting to rant.

Ok, why didn't you just say so?
02-18-2013 , 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by pvn
thnks dbl for tarding this thread up GJGE
I know, WTF is wrong with me, tarding this thread up with knowledge and information and ****.
02-18-2013 , 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by DblBarrelJ
I know, WTF is wrong with me, tarding this thread up with knowledge and information and ****.
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Originally Posted by DblBarrelJ
How'd they kill him?

Did they kill him?
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Originally Posted by DblBarrelJ
Omaha, what's the takeaway from that story IYO?

What did the police officers do wrong in your view?

(I'd like to note that they did do something wrong, so I'm not saying they didnt, but none of you will correctly guess what it was)
02-18-2013 , 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by DblBarrelJ
What did the police officers do wrong in your view?

(I'd like to note that they did do something wrong, so I'm not saying they didnt, but none of you will correctly guess what it was)
They didn't pistol-whip him a few times before killing the ******? They didn't try to sieze everyone's cell phone camera afterward? What do I win if I guess the answer?
02-18-2013 , 02:40 PM
My respect.
02-18-2013 , 02:46 PM
This is a tough one. I guess I don't know too much about police SOP for strangling ******ed people. Does the answer involve guns?

      
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