Law and Order 2 - Page 209 - Politics and Economics

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slate...t_be_sued.html

Again for all the talk about the anti-police atmosphere and **** it is ****ing stunning how much society lets cops get away with **** that no other profession gets. Doctors and lawyers and **** get personally and professionally destroyed when they make much less severe "mistakes" than just straight up murdering someone.

For how underpaid cops are, the taxpayers are underwriting an immense insurance policy with no deductible for each and every one of them.

03-18-2017 , 05:55 PM

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http://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/fl...-death-9213190

This story is, of course, even worse. But hey, hashtag war on cops

03-18-2017 , 06:10 PM

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Are cops underpaid though? They have very robust unions and politicians always leave them out of their public union busting stuff which makes our teachers and other public servants struggle.

http://www.wbaltv.com/article/mayor-...ertime/9136250

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"Even when we think about Artscape, festivals, who's paying the costs? Does it have to be overtime for police officers? Are there other entities that we could be using that would cost us less?" Pugh said.

Pugh has asked for a forensic audit of the Police Department's overtime. On Wednesday, she stressed current rate at $1.6 million every two weeks, which is $40 million per year, is unaffordable.

"This overtime is very concerning to me. We have limited resources. Nobody wants property taxes to go up. Certainly, I don't," Pugh said.

The federal corruption case against seven city police officers brought new attention to the department's overtime. The officers are charged with criminal fraud.

The police overtime bill has been run up for years, and the same officers now charged took homes big checks regularly.

Between 2011 and 2016, the seven officers made $2.6 million in base pay. Their overtime was another $1.1 million. In that same time period, Sgt. Wayne Jenkins' base pay was $429,832. His overtime totaled $257,045. Detective Daniel Hersl's base pay was $400,376. His overtime was $311,371.

Hersl and Jenkins were both at one time assigned to a specialized plainclothes unit called VCID.

A police source told WBAL-TV 11 News I-Team that one of the biggest plainclothes units was an "overtime factory."

It caught the attention of Department of Justice investigators who included a flyer in their report on the department's abusive practices.

The flyer was posted in police precincts with a caption, "striking fear in the heart of loiterers."

A police source told the I-Team that VCID as an "overtime factory."

One VCID supervisor, for example, was paid $453,675 in base pay from 2011 to 2016 but racked up $322,331 in overtime, 42 percent of his take home pay.

That supervisor is among 46 supervisors and officers who were moved back to uniform patrol as part of Commissioner Kevin Davis response to the federal case. The mayor supported the move.

03-18-2017 , 07:18 PM

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Are cops underpaid though?

03-18-2017 , 07:39 PM

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Are cops underpaid though?

That was sarcasm.

FWIW their salaries seem fine to me, you never hear about a police force having open spots go unfilled or anything, but paying them less would produce an even ****tier talent pool.

03-18-2017 , 07:52 PM

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That was sarcasm.

FWIW their salaries seem fine to me, you never hear about a police force having open spots go unfilled or anything, but paying them less would produce an even ****tier talent pool.

True, true.

03-19-2017 , 08:15 AM

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This thread didn't go as planned

04-12-2017 , 06:36 PM

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Fort Collins, CO police body slam sorority girl to the ground

04-12-2017 , 09:46 PM

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In other unsurprising news an officer that was involved in a controversial killing was videotaped stomping a handcuffed suspect's head

You can hear the suspect telling the officer after he was stomped on, "Are you serious? I have cuffs on."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...0b9e9848918e1?

04-13-2017 , 02:43 AM

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http://trib.in/2o7qKQ0

New Chicago FOP President defeated the incumbent on a platform of reducing oversight on cops

04-13-2017 , 03:05 PM

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Just sickening stuff in the last few posts.

04-14-2017 , 09:28 PM

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https://twitter.com/GAFollowers/stat...17780599951360

05-02-2017 , 04:24 PM

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I am guessing this is the ideal thread for discussion of the Jordan Edwards shooting?

Brutal and I hope justice will be served.

05-02-2017 , 07:57 PM

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I am guessing this is the ideal thread for discussion of the Jordan Edwards shooting?

Brutal and I hope justice will be served.

They fired the officer

http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Com...owTwt_DFWBrand

05-02-2017 , 09:01 PM

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That is a start. Now let us hope he is charged.

05-03-2017 , 01:20 AM

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Two guys working with me today got to sit on the curb in handcuffs for a while for tinted windows that aren't even very dark, factory tint and almost certainly legal.

05-05-2017 , 06:25 PM

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That is a start. Now let us hope he is charged.

Murder warrant put out first him today

05-10-2017 , 11:20 AM

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Shooting black people never seems to get cops fired or arrested, but apparently not shooting them can.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/...n-sues-n756976

05-10-2017 , 05:54 PM

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https://twitter.com/Rasmussen_Poll/s...21348516880384

05-11-2017 , 10:45 AM

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Activists go into police stations asking for a complaint form. Often they are intimidated, and sometimes even arrested.

05-17-2017 , 03:40 PM

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The guy who tortured this unarmed man was the police trainer for the guy who shot an unarmed black kid

05-17-2017 , 11:34 PM

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Tweet should include the cops name.

05-17-2017 , 11:37 PM

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Activists go into police stations asking for a complaint form. Often they are intimidated, and sometimes even arrested.

I remember a time when this kind of solid investigatory journalism was on all the time. In fact it was on so much there were parodies of it in comedies and sketch shows. It almost seems hokey now, like a relic of a time that's long been forgotten.