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07-14-2015 , 11:08 AM

grizy

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http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/14/politi...eal/index.html

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07-14-2015 , 12:35 PM

suzzer99

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The fact that Gamblor isn't in here going bananas means, I'm guessing, Israel likes this deal?

07-14-2015 , 12:39 PM

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The fact that Gamblor isn't in here going bananas means, I'm guessing, Israel likes this deal?

Your guess, not so good. See Mr. N goes to Congress for details.

07-14-2015 , 12:43 PM

Beady_Bear

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Israel not happy. Refuse to adhere.

No surprise there.

Obamas tenure has been pretty epic.

07-14-2015 , 12:54 PM

grizy

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Deal is way better than I expected was possible. 24/7 access to practically the whole supply chain, including military facilities, is a pretty big deal.

The deal as outlined honestly looks pretty good. Rest is political will and consistent execution to make sure everyone holds up the bargain.

07-14-2015 , 01:06 PM

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Even Russia, China, and Iran combined can't prevent putting all the sanctions back in place anyway. Some people seem to think negotiating means you get literally whatever you want and they get nothing even when the status quo was worse for both sides than the ultimate deal.

07-14-2015 , 01:16 PM

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Israel not happy. Refuse to adhere.

No surprise there.

Obamas tenure has been pretty epic.

only if you like glass.....

This is all you need to know : "Iranians Are Euphoric After Nuclear Deal Reached"

http://www.vocativ.com/news/211147/i...-deal-reached/

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07-14-2015 , 01:23 PM

Noze

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Yeah that #IranWinsPeace hashtag is so awful, can't wait until I can skate on the ruins of their country.

07-14-2015 , 01:31 PM

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only if you like glass.....

This is all you need to know : "Iranians Are Euphoric After Nuclear Deal Reached"

http://www.vocativ.com/news/211147/i...-deal-reached/

Please explain.

07-14-2015 , 01:32 PM

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God forbid a group of people be happy to have crippling economic sanctions lifted.

07-14-2015 , 01:36 PM

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Please explain.

sand heated up makes glass. This will lead to a nuclear race in the middle east and more instability in the region.

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Originally Posted by mmbt0ne

God forbid a group of people be happy to have crippling economic sanctions lifted.

I would be for this if they gave up the nuclear program. It's not like they are going to be using it for energy....

07-14-2015 , 01:36 PM

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Looks like the deal is win-win-win

07-14-2015 , 01:37 PM

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the terribleness of this deal is limited only by rara's imagination

07-14-2015 , 01:39 PM

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sand heated up makes glass. This will lead to a nuclear race in the middle east and more instability in the region.

You're still not explaining why Iranians celebrating is a bad thing. You must be a Saudi Arabia spy here to instigate Americans against Iranians. Are you or are you not an Saudi spy? If you answer you are not, then it most definitively true that you are.

07-14-2015 , 01:45 PM

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Ordinary Iranians being happy about the deal is a good thing. Makes Iranian leadership think twice about sinking the country back into economic sanction again.

07-14-2015 , 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by raradevils

only if you like glass.....

This is all you need to know : "Iranians Are Euphoric After Nuclear Deal Reached"

http://www.vocativ.com/news/211147/i...-deal-reached/

Yeah rara, good point as always. Iranians don't want the next great neocon adventure to be their country. We must have lost big time. Negotiations not to start a nuclear war are always a zero sum game. Both sides can never win here.

07-14-2015 , 01:51 PM

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Republicans: erring on the side of war since the 50s, with zero accountability ever because USA#1:

Rara, you are the guy pissed off about the nuclear hot line in the 60s.

07-14-2015 , 01:52 PM

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sand heated up makes glass. This will lead to a nuclear race in the middle east and more instability in the region.

How can there be a nuclear race in the region when pretty much all the other nations there already have nukes (either directly or indirectly via their alliances with the US or Russia)?

07-14-2015 , 01:53 PM

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Ordinary Iranians being happy about the deal is a good thing. Makes Iranian leadership think twice about sinking the country back into economic sanction again.

There cannot be two winners in the game of international diplomacy. I mean sure all the everyday citizens on each side. But they don't count.

07-14-2015 , 01:55 PM

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One way to stop that from happening would be to stop attaching others around the world don't you think. This deal will not stop that from happening and may actual lead to an increase in terror activity by their "friends".

07-14-2015 , 02:00 PM

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How can there be a nuclear race in the region when pretty much all the other nations there already have nukes (either directly or indirectly via their alliances with the US or Russia)?

Would you trust your allies to defend you if attacked? Think Ukraine....

Why would you want your own....again think Ukraine....

07-14-2015 , 02:02 PM

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I mean we all know Rara is a troll, but this is just pathetic. An agreement to prevent a nuclear bomb is going to accelerate a nuclear arms race. It's going to invite more terrorist activity. This is idiotic thinking.

07-14-2015 , 02:05 PM

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One way to stop that from happening would be to stop attaching others around the world don't you think.

Yeah, maybe we should stop doing it ourselves before we demand it of every other country on earth.

07-14-2015 , 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl

Clearly the only solution is to invade and leave another gigantic war-torn power vacuum for ISIS to drool over.

NOT INSANE THINKING AT ALL NOPE

07-14-2015 , 02:10 PM

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Tien

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Can anyone explain to me what Iran "gave up" in return for sanctions being lifted besides "24/7" checks on facilities.

Doesn't look like they gave up anything in return for sanctions being lifted.

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