The David Lee Roth video wasn't part of the argument. It was a pop culture aside for a very narrow age range of people who can not hear or read the word 'charisma' without immediately thinking of it.

Mine too.

Brag: as a mid teen I saw Led Zep in 1979 and The Clash the following year (and a shed load of lesser bands).

Just watched Life - which I would call a cross between Alien and Gravity. Ok I guess. But one thing really bugged me (don't read comments below if you don't want spoilers).



I'm watching Alien now - my all time favorite movis. So sublime.

Note to self: if on alien planet and thing seems to react to something you're doing - run. Immediately.

Where does the John Hurt chest-burst scene rate in all time movie scenes? These are just completely off the top of my head, forgetting a ton I'm sure. And I'm kinda drunk.

1. Boogie Nights - Firecracker scene
2. Full Metal Jacket - I am in a world of ****
3. Alien - Alien chest burst
4. Blues Brothers - chase
5. Goodfellas - made man beat down - way down across the ocean
6. Close Encounters - Anh Enh Anh Unh Anh scene
7. Alens - initial attack scene where they're all dying on the screens
8. Fast Times at Ridgemont High - Phoebe Cates/Judge Reinholdt
9. Terminator - final chase scene
10. Magnolia (which I hate otherwise) - respect the cock
11. Pulp Fiction - Christopher Walken/Bruce Willis watch
12. Old School - Bed Bath & Beyond/we're going streaking
13. War Games - want to play a game (in NORAD)
14. Swingers - answering machine
15. Full Metal Jacket - killing the sniper at the end

Charasma!

Alien is absolutely perfect imo. Such a great film.

pfft, figures. Doesn't get the respect it deserves.

Yup, it's called Anywheresville, VT.

Rob Bottin the special fx guy did this scene as well.

I've always said it's the most perfect movie ever made.

I saw Alien in the Midland Theater in KC when I was 11. It was a gigantic old opera house that had been converted into a move theater - really cool, and the first theater with Dolby surround-sound in KC. I still remember the egg scene - looking over at my Mom and she was curled up into a ball in her seat, just peeking through her fingers. I was like - why is my mom so scared? he's just peering over into that egg thing that just opened up. Nothing beats the power of movies.

And I LOVE The Thing. I'd put the scene where they're giving CPR and the dude's chest opens up and eats the guy's hands up there. I was actually thinking about that during Life when they did CPR.

Driftless area is about 50% Catholic which is a pretty high percentage. But I think it's the pretty hills and forests and whitewater rivers that attract people who like hiking and cycling and canoeing and just generally being outdoors. The republicans have tied their wagon to pollution being acceptable and that seems to not bother people from the flat, ugly parts of the midwest very much. I'm not sure if the area has turned red or if people just really wanted to build a wall. I suspect the latter.

I put music above movies, but great movies like Alien and The Thing are true gems in life.

Suzzer's theory checks out in my brain. Trump is decently charismatic--i remember enjoying the hell out of his press conferences when he was threatening to rid us of ikes. And Hilary is exceptionally uncharismatic for a politician that rose to such heights.

Pre-election, before Trump was even a political figure - imaging HRC having a show like the Apprentice - with a catchphrase like "you're fired". I cringe even thinking what she'd come up with.

Or before that when "The Donald" nickname came into being - that doesn't happen w/o a certain charisma that HRC does not have in any way, shape or form.

Semi-grunch the charisma thing.

HRC is reportedly fairly warm, charming, funny in small groups. Too bad she couldn't pull that off with crowds.

I talked to someone yesterday who had meet Bill Clinton and, unsurprisingly, the description was off the charts charisma.

Every account I've ever heard says Hitler's charisma was off the charts. And he seemed to do all right for himself in the winning over the masses category.

Lol we literally posted "off the charts charisma" at the same time.

FDR most likely wins post-1900 charisma (pretty hard to judge earlier w/o video and audio).

IIRC he did ok for himself.

Seems like Lincoln wasn't exactly a cold fish.

It makes sense in the long run. You want to back a horse that you think is going to win. Humans get together and agree on the characteristics that they admire in a tribe leader, people respond to those characteristics and rally around that person.

Evolution turns it into a self-fulfilling prophecy, like looks. You want your offspring to not only survive and be healthy, but procreate. So you want them to look like the kind of individuals that other individuals would procreate with, etc.

Ted Bundy had incredible charisma as well. Clearly those with lots of charisma often use it to exploit others.

You just contradicted yourself. it's arguable that no one in modern US history has exploited more people than Donald Trump.

Nyet comrade. Like ya said, charrrrisma not cause of Clinton loss. She had other prrrroblems.

Just watched the chest-burst scene. It's back up to #1. Every frame is pitch-perfect.

I love how the baby alien looks around at each one of them like - you're all next. For years in the early 80s - my buddies and I entertained ourselves by shoving our fists under our shirts and pretending there was an alien bursting through, we also mimicked the "AINGH AINGH" from the baby alien before it scuttled off.

My mom and stepdad had seen the previews and heard about the egg scene and chest burst scene. But as a kid I had no idea any of that stuff was coming. Nor did I realize the movie wasn't over when Ripley got into the shuttle and blew up the Nostromo. That stuff only happens when you're young before you pay attention to trailers and realize movie formulas.

I took my girlfriend's daughter to see Slumdog Millionaire when she was 15. I think that movie had a similar profound effect on her.

There's something about movies that hit you in that sweet spot. I'm sure people who saw The Graduate, Casablanca or Citizen Kane in their sweet spot had a similar experience. By the time I saw those movies they didn't do a whole lot for me.

However I know plenty of people who weren't even born when Alien came out who still think it's a great movie. I wasn't born when Night of the Living Dead came out, but man that movie got me good. Movies that transcend their time period seem to be the exception though.

I should probably go to bed.

Forgot about Ashe is a goddamn robot scene. Incredible.

I wasn't born when Alien came out, but it for sure makes my Top 5. Right from that opening shot with the helmet, you know you're in for a great movie.

Why on earth would people in Minnesota be gung ho for a border wall? The people who live on the border don't want it ffs.

Your list needs more Kubrik then just Full Metal Jacket, imo. "Open the pod bay doors, Hal," and ofc the opening jump cut when the ape throws a bone in the air which becomes the space station in 2001 deserve at least an honorable mention.