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I've never been to LA but I've been told the water isn't nearly as warm as one might expect, even in the summer. That said, this is coming from someone who lived on the Caribbean so the bias is real.

I always wondered why the water in Virginia Beach was pleasant and the water in San Diego was ****ing freezing. Then somebody explained the obvious to me - the circulation on both sides is basically clockwise, so the west coast water is coming down from the arctic while the east coast water is coming up from the Caribbean.

The result is that in early August, LA peaks at about 68 degrees while at Myrtle Beach, SC (similar latitude) it's 83.

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06-01-2017 , 08:26 PM

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Wot's covfefe?

Dunno; juno?

No, I dunno either.

06-02-2017 , 02:13 AM

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lol coasts. When trouble comes, nobody says "Run to the beach!" Inland hills are where it's at. And small, tasteful mountains. Not like those garish monstrosities out west. And no matter where you live, if you don't have primarily deciduous trees your climate is teh suck.

I feel like this could be the start of something that ends with the ATF and FBI and coroners.

06-02-2017 , 02:16 AM

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What is this name you speak of, snek?

If they're calling you back that's gotta be a good sign.

06-02-2017 , 02:34 AM

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Minor Zelda spoiler, I'll never tell

They appear willing to train people, so maybe that's why they're taking pity on me. Never envisioned myself as an engineer, but apparently three or more people somewhere disagree.

06-02-2017 , 02:39 AM

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You seem like a smart person, don't sell yourself short! Do you have any ideas of what they might ask in interview? If you do then you should prepare imo. A wise man once told an interviewer with a camera when I then watched on video that preparation breeds confidence.

06-02-2017 , 02:48 AM

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part of the problem is that i'm in an entirely new career space and have no familiarity with the types of questions they might ask. I've looked up glassdoor interview questions but they were all pretty generic and nowhere near as complicated as I've got so far.

i know there have been entire books written for the last two fields i was in re: interview questions, but i've yet to find an industry-standard collection of questions for the one i'm aiming for now

06-02-2017 , 02:49 AM

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Do you know what technologies they use that you'll be working with?

06-02-2017 , 02:54 AM

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If you're going in totally blind, I have a little tip that just might work with the right person.

What you want to do is go to a game shop. Like card and table games like MTG and D&D. You need to pick yourself up a D20. If you already have one, you're in good shape!

Take your D20 to the interview, and if you're asked something you just don't know, whip it out and announce a charisma check, roll it and then give em your best schmoozing! Works every time 100% of the time when it works, if it does.

06-02-2017 , 03:03 AM

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Duly noted.

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Do you know what technologies they use that you'll be working with?

Kind of everything, unfortunately. They've not asked too many vendor specific questions, but there have been a few. Being rather resourceful, I've been able to cobble together what must have been passable answers. :shrug:

06-02-2017 , 03:10 AM

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Well, my last sort of interview did not go well. It was with the director of the jazz program at my university. I was sleep deprived and a bit slow in the head, and was informed that no, Frank Zappa is not jazz, and most definitely no, Fiona Apple is not jazz either.

It went bad. Real bad. Do you know what I didn't have? A D20.

Don't make the same mistake!

06-02-2017 , 09:41 AM

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Friendly reminder that noted American hero Charles Lindbergh was a Nazi-sympathizing anti-Semitic piece of ****

recommended reading:

06-02-2017 , 11:00 AM

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Friendly reminder that noted American hero Charles Lindbergh was a Nazi-sympathizing anti-Semitic piece of ****

Other American elites and business leaders of the period were Nazi sympathizers or Nazi curious (Henry Ford, Walt Disney, William Randolph Hearst as noted in that tweet).

Recommended reading is Anatomy of Fascism by Robert Paxton:

https://www.amazon.com/Anatomy-Fasci.../dp/1400033918

Really everyone should read this, given the current moment in our politics; but he makes pains to point out that fascists went to great lengths to behave as if they were a genuine working class party when most of the members of the party were the middle class, upper class and the elites.

It's easy to forget that Nazis have become the cartoon super villains of history, but that they had a measure of support in America among certain people and where it came from.

Also note that history has put fascist aggression as front-and-center as one of the main underlying causes of WWII, and obviously so. It feels so obvious that we forget that at the time, it was a point of contention where exactly the rising tensions in Europe was coming from. One of the very powerful tropes of Nazis and fascists during the 1930s and early 40s that they were essentially peaceniks who wanted nothing but self-determination and that their opponents were consistently war-mongering. You might amuse yourself in a dark-humor kind of way going back and listening to fascist rhetoric of the 30s like Lindbergh's ("the Jew media wants war!") and how say contemporary Trumpkins described Hillary Clinton and 'globalists' love of war while they at the same time imaging fantastical ways George Soros and the UN are undermining American sovereignty and where all that mentality leads to.

06-02-2017 , 11:11 AM

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****ing white people

06-02-2017 , 12:05 PM

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Jonathan Goldsmith — the actor who played “The Most Interesting Man in the World” in a years-long series of Dos Equis beer ads — claimed in an explosive essay for Politico that he has had adulterous affairs with the wives of two Republican congressmen.

06-02-2017 , 01:17 PM

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06-02-2017 , 02:01 PM

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Here in Ireland, we're about to get our first openly gay Taoiseach (Prime Minister), who also happens to be the son of an immigrant. In a country where both homosexuality and divorce were banned until the 1990s, we've come a long way!

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-40139428

06-02-2017 , 02:04 PM

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On the Economist and being a paper of reputation

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The Economist is not, therefore, an honest examiner of the facts. It is constantly at pains not to risk conclusions that may hurt the case for unregulated markets. This tendency reached its absurd apotheosis in the magazine’s infamous 2014 review of Edward Baptist’s The Half Has Never Been Told: Slavery and the Making of American Capitalism. The magazine objected to Baptist’s brutal depiction of the slave trade, saying the book did not qualify as “an objective history of slavery” because “almost all the blacks in his book are victims, almost all the whites villains.” When outraged readers pointed out that this is because, well, the victims of slavery tended to be black, The Economist retracted the review. But as Baptist observed in response, there was a reason why the magazine felt the need to mitigate the evils of slavery. Baptist’s book portrayed slavery as an integral part of the history of capitalism. As he wrote: “If slavery was profitable—and it was—then it creates an unforgiving paradox for the moral authority of markets—and market fundamentalists. What else, today, might be immoral and yet profitable?” The implications of Baptist’s work would have unsettling implications for The Economist. They would damn the foundations of the very Western free enterprise system that the magazine is devoted to championing. Thus The Economist needed to find a way to soften its verdict on slavery. (It was not the first time they had done so, either. In a tepid review of Greg Grandin’s The Empire of Necessity with the hilariously offensive title of “Slavery: Not Black or White,” the magazine lamented that “the horrors in Mr Grandin’s history are unrelenting.” And the magazine’ long tradition of defending misery stretches back to the 19th century, when it blamed the Irish potato famine on irresponsible decisions made by destitute peasants.)

https://www.currentaffairs.org/2017/...onomist-thinks

06-02-2017 , 02:04 PM

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That's pretty remarkable. I would have figured Ireland would be the last country to have a gay PM.

06-02-2017 , 02:30 PM

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On the Economist and being a paper of reputation

https://www.currentaffairs.org/2017/...onomist-thinks

Consider a recent example where United beat the **** out of one of their customers and some of the market orthodox people strained very, very hard to find the Chicago cops or the rent-a-cops or someone else to blame, rather than acknowledge that a firm might engage in business models predicated on Calculated Misery and consciously prey upon their customers to the point they might literally beat the **** out of them, and that consumers writ large might also continue to engage in this kind of system with the hopes that they might be winners and get those sweet, sweet cheap fares and they might get what they were sold.

I was sort of purposefully provocative and recognized too that the analogy was a little strained, and that the global Atlantic slave trade is a far better example of a completely heinous moral outcome produced by the markets. But the point is the same: seeking profit is a morally agnostic exercise.

06-02-2017 , 03:44 PM

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On the Economist and being a paper of reputation

https://www.currentaffairs.org/2017/...onomist-thinks

I'd never heard of Current Affairs magazine. Pretty interesting; thanks for linking. I'm kind of amazed you didn't link this article, though, if only for DVaut.

HOW LIBERALS FELL IN LOVE WITH THE WEST WING

https://www.currentaffairs.org/2017/...-the-west-wing

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But if anything gives that worldview pause, it should be the events of the past eight years. Liberals got a real life Josiah Bartlet in the figure of Barack Obama, a charismatic and stylish politician elected on a populist wave. But Obama’s soaring speeches, quintessentially presidential affect, and deference to procedure did little to fundamentally improve the country or prevent his Republican rivals from storming the Congressional barricades at their first opportunity. Confronted by a mercurial TV personality bent on transgressing every norm and truism of Beltway thinking, Democrats responded by exhaustively informing voters of his indecency and hypocrisy, attempting to destroy him countless times with his own logic, but ultimately leaving him completely intact. They smugly taxonomized as “smart” and “dumb” the very electorate they needed to win over, and retreated into an ideological fever dream in which political success doesn’t come from organizing and building power, but from having the most polished arguments and the most detailed policy statements. If you can just crush Trump in the debates, as Bartlet did to Richie, then you’ve won. (That’s not an exaggeration of the worldview. Ezra Klein published an article entitled “Hillary Clinton’s 3 debate performances left the Trump campaign in ruins,” which entirely eliminated the distinction between what happens in debates and what happens in campaigns. The belief that politics is about argument rather than power is likely a symptom of a Democratic politics increasingly incubated in the Ivy League rather than the labor movement.)

06-02-2017 , 04:06 PM

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This is true, I've been bemoaning the influence of the West Wing before it was cool:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...php?p=51505947

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Someday when I have much more time, I will write a long rambly thing about how The West Wing phenomenon was really ultimately destructive to effete liberalism and was one of the (minor) factors that led to a certain amount of complacency about how transgressive the American right is, and ultimately led to Trump.

The punchline is that while it's transparently and obviously fictional, it ultimately portended to be insider-y and portray a Washington establishment that adhered to norms which are non-existent. That both parties had some differences but on the whole operated with a collective moral clarity and worked For the Good of Everyone.

Now even then, the overarching narratives implied an obstinate and irrational right wing but that ultimately, the Republican Party could be cajoled into some consensus wisdom and bargaining either through a nice argument or a well-played hand by the Bartlett Administration or referencing third-rails and polling or whatever. At worst Josh or Toby would have to go bully them into common sense on Capitol Hill or something.

In the end, it portrayed a world where consensus and compromise were valued rather than seeing politics as a game of genuinely competing zero sum interests. Whether we adhere to that ideal of pluralism or see it as a valid aspiration is irrelevant; the reality is that the modern American political zeitgeist is fast retrenching into the view the world is zero sum and that compromise is ultimately loss. The West Wing tried to demonstrate the opposite, and resulted in liberals forgetting that it was fictional, and idealized, and left us clinging to those aspirations as shared facts and a communal standard. That's obviously not the case and there's tons of Americans, tens of millions, who want nothing more of politics than to watch some suffer, or to humiliate someone, or at best to just be left the **** alone. Plenty of them are powerful and important and in government.

History didn't help; if anything, we're coming off of a few generations where leftist and liberal gains have been won and done largely systemically and procedurally through legislation or via the courts. The West Wing perpetuated the short term past, the 1940s into the 1990s, periods where America's economy was largely burgeoning and where bipartisanship were at ahistorical highs -- and turned into a fictionalized account of the American Always, just the norms about how our system works. And liberals bought it. Continue to buy it, even.

American history prior to the New Deal is replete with far more examples of where I think we're headed in the near to mid term future where politics was often cynical and cutthroat, if not truly combative and violent. The West Wing told an idealized story of an ultimately short-lived political cultural affectation and sheltered into some parts of the liberal American hive mind, like that one day the abusive dad stopped drinking for a few hours and took his kids to the arcade with a fistful of quarters and let them have at it. You can picture the collective liberals reposed on the couch talking to therapists about that day Dad helped them get the high-score on the Addams Family pinball machine instead of hitting them, that time Santos nominated Vinick to be Secretary of State instead of an oil company CEO. That was the real dad. This is our real government. We're sure of it.

Note however I actually steal most of my ideas from others.

06-02-2017 , 04:09 PM

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See:

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Originally Posted by FlyWf

https://www.currentaffairs.org/2017/...-the-west-wing

Somebody probably posted it(hell, I probably did) but this was a good thing on how Aaron Sorkin caused Trump

(depending whose link you click the posted date of the article changes, that's weird)

06-02-2017 , 04:28 PM

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tangentally, if you ever want to see the most miserable sons of bitches on planet earth, take a look at the flyertalk forums. In particular, there are multiple people who think that the REAL problem is all these rabble rousers with their video cameras on planes, if they could just make recording on a plane a federal crime then things would go a lot more smoothly.