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The Joy Reid/Louise Mensch twitter feud is pretty lame as far as actual twitter beefs go but is pretty hilarious from a "morons who used to be besties and now are in a slapfight" point of view.

06-25-2017 , 03:15 PM

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Most likely Trumpkin here is not the guy in the truck.

06-25-2017 , 04:05 PM

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Wow

06-25-2017 , 04:15 PM

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That's kind of an interesting crash from a liability perspective (i.e., how much do we assign to the motorcyclist vs the car driver). I can see a jury answering that quite differently than I would.

Also I wonder if the guy on the motorcycle got away completely. Not clear if they can get his plates off the video.

06-25-2017 , 04:16 PM

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Yeah. Nice job staying up by the motorcyclist. I got hit by a car once and stayed up. I didn't even kick them first.

06-25-2017 , 04:17 PM

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Only the truck driver was hurt but will be ok.

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/l...623-story.html

06-25-2017 , 04:18 PM

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Motorcyclist probably guilty of hit and run if caught.

I assign the motorcyclist 100% of the blame for a kicked car and zero percent of the blame for anything else. The car driver is attempted murder maybe and maybe worse depending on what happened to the people in the truck that flipped.

06-25-2017 , 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by uDevil

Most likely Trumpkin here is not the guy in the truck.

The article you posted describes the it as a Cadillac Truck and the driver as an elderly man. I'd say the odds of him being a Trumpkin are pretty high.

06-25-2017 , 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by microbet

Motorcyclist probably guilty of hit and run if caught.

I don't know what the law says, but I think he's got plausible deniability on that. It's thin, but his argument is that the "accident" was really the car trying to hit him, bouncing off the median, and then hitting the truck. Yeah, he kicked the car, but it certainly didn't cause the driver to do what he did in the same way the car *caused* the truck to crash. That was an independent decision of the car driver, and anything subsequent to that didn't involve him. He was just trying to get out of the way.

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I assign the motorcyclist 100% of the blame for a kicked car and zero percent of the blame for anything else. The car driver is attempted murder maybe and maybe worse depending on what happened to the people in the truck that flipped.

I agree with this completely. Sadly, I think many people don't.

06-25-2017 , 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Melkerson

I don't know what the law says, but I think he's got plausible deniability on that. It's thin, but his argument is that the "accident" was really the car trying to hit him, bouncing off the median, and then hitting the truck. Yeah, he kicked the car, but it certainly didn't cause the driver to do what he did in the same way the car *caused* the truck to crash. That was an independent decision of the car driver, and anything subsequent to that didn't involve him. He was just trying to get out of the way.

I agree with this completely. Sadly, I think many people don't.

Well, the car didn't just try to hit him. It hit him pretty good.

06-25-2017 , 04:34 PM

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The article you posted describes the it as a Cadillac Truck and the driver as an elderly man. I'd say the odds of him being a Trumpkin are pretty high.

Its California so the Trumpkin odds go way down tho.

Also, this happened at 5:45am. Who has that much anger so early in the morning?

06-25-2017 , 04:40 PM

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About 150 feet ahead was a Nissan sedan driving in the HOV lane, Traber said. Just as the motorcyclist was passing the sedan on the right-hand side, the sedan tried to exit the carpool lane and enter the No. 1 lane. That’s when the car bumped the bike.

“I’m sure he didn’t see the motorcyclist,” Traber said of the driver. “He scared the living daylights out of the motorcyclist. He almost went down. That guy can really handle his bike.”

Traber said that after the motorcyclist regained control, he pulled up to the car’s passenger door and began gesturing at the driver. Traber said he appeared to be saying something too, but Traber couldn’t hear him. He said he figured the biker was “saying something like, hey, you almost hit me! Watch out!”

Traber said it looked as though the driver was yelling something back at the biker, and that it didn’t help matters, because that’s when the motorcyclist started kicking the passenger door.

from the article, before the video:

* the car lane changed from carpool to traffic lane and hit motorcyclist
* yelling both ways while driving
* motorcyclist kicked car
* video starts

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The CHP is handling the investigation and did not cite the driver of the sedan. Investigators need to interview the motorcyclist to get the whole story before any decisions are made, officials said. The case is now considered a hit-and-run.

06-25-2017 , 04:43 PM

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Where does a lifted Ram 2500 put me?

I do haul 1000's of pounds of paint in the bed for work though.

Might as well be rolling coal.

What exactly are you painting that requires thousands of pounds of paint? The Hoover Dam?

06-25-2017 , 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by campfirewest

Its California so the Trumpkin odds go way down tho.

True, but I think cadillac truck is a much stronger predictive factor. Even if it happened in the middle of San Francisco, I'd still guess Trumpkin.

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Also, this happened at 5:45am. Who has that much anger so early in the morning?

Someone who has been driving all night?

06-25-2017 , 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by zikzak

Might as well be rolling coal.

What exactly are you painting that requires thousands of pounds of paint? The Hoover Dam?

300+ ft oil barges.

2 of these pallets are are around 1500 pounds.

06-25-2017 , 05:10 PM

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I want to choke coal rollers

06-25-2017 , 05:14 PM

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I want to choke coal rollers

My truck doesn't do that nonsense. Pretty damn economical for what it is too. 20 or so mpg highway, probably 16 city.

06-25-2017 , 05:16 PM

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Interesting article, though I don't know how seriously to take this kind of thing.

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If power were a prescription drug, it would come with a long list of known side effects. It can intoxicate. It can corrupt. It can even make Henry Kissinger believe that he’s sexually magnetic. But can it cause brain damage?

https://www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/528711/

06-25-2017 , 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Chips Ahoy

from the article, before the video:

* the car lane changed from carpool to traffic lane and hit motorcyclist
* yelling both ways while driving
* motorcyclist kicked car
* video starts

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The CHP is handling the investigation and did not cite the driver of the sedan

My reading of the "did not cite the driver of sedan" was that it meant "did not cite the driver of the sedan *yet*". He has to be cited for something.

06-25-2017 , 05:32 PM

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The only thing I'd credit the sedan guy for is how soon after coming to a stop he turned his flashers on. I'd have been so stunned it would take me a few seconds to think of that. He needs a time-out from driving.

06-25-2017 , 05:35 PM

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If some idiot on a motorcycle drove up and started kicking my car I would probably do the same thing. Hopefully without crashing like a moran though.

06-25-2017 , 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Jbrochu

If some idiot on a motorcycle drove up and started kicking my car I would probably do the same thing. Hopefully without crashing like a moran though.

Let's back up to step 1. You are driving on the freeway and you lane change without looking and HIT a motorcycle. He is very skillful and stays up.

The he starts yelling at you, because your negligence could have killed him. You yell back because ??? Then he kicks your car.

Now you are going to try to kill him? That's a bad idea.

A car is a dangerous weapon. I recommend not using it to try to hurt people. A dent from a kick isn't worth a life.

06-25-2017 , 05:46 PM

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Well sure, if that's exactly how it went down.

But I'm not giving Mr. "I'm dumb enough to drive up next to a car and kick it while on a motorcycle" all that much credit.

And you can further tell he's a giant penis head when he chooses to bolt from the scene.